If that was serious then all I can do is laugh. "Let men work " is too terrible to take seriously.
Kalinda Vazquez Set By Paramount To Script Original ‘Star Trek’ Movie
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Two things.
One:
b. - 1. - In any case, any in-thread accusation of trolling would have been out of place in this forum, as would be any in-thread discussion of such an accusation (no matter whether explicit or inferred.)
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Two:
b. - Discussion of Disco, Picard or Beyer would properly belong in forums appropriate to those topics, unless they can be shown to have some direct bearing on the topic(s) under discussion here.
c. - 1. - "There are no good scifi movies which have been written by women (ever!)." - This is a topic all of its own. There are forums in which it would be appropriate to raise such a topic, but this really isn't one of them. Try Science Fiction & Fantasy, perhaps.
c. - 2. - "Why does Star Trek always have to push the female agenda over the top?" - Another topic all its own. Likewise, this is not the forum for that conversation. General Trek Discussion might be the right place.
I hope this has cleared a few things up concerning discussion appropriate to this thread and forum.
One:
a. - While it's never a good idea for one to assume one fully knows what @Jayson1 means by anything he's posted, I will note that he did not use that word.
b. - 1. - In any case, any in-thread accusation of trolling would have been out of place in this forum, as would be any in-thread discussion of such an accusation (no matter whether explicit or inferred.)
b. - 2. - If one believes such an accusation has been made, use the 'Report' button at the bottom of the post in question, or contact the forum moderator via PM with a link to said post.
Two:
a. - The opinions stated in this post concerning the proposed movie -- or concerning the prior track record of a particular individual proposed to be connected with such a movie -- would be on-topic, though perhaps would be arguments demanding some additional subsequent support. The same would be true of the wish that the studio reconsider its decision or that they instead had gone with the proposed Tarantino version -- be prepared to give further arguments in support.
b. - Discussion of Disco, Picard or Beyer would properly belong in forums appropriate to those topics, unless they can be shown to have some direct bearing on the topic(s) under discussion here.
c. - 1. - "There are no good scifi movies which have been written by women (ever!)." - This is a topic all of its own. There are forums in which it would be appropriate to raise such a topic, but this really isn't one of them. Try Science Fiction & Fantasy, perhaps.
c. - 2. - "Why does Star Trek always have to push the female agenda over the top?" - Another topic all its own. Likewise, this is not the forum for that conversation. General Trek Discussion might be the right place.
I hope this has cleared a few things up concerning discussion appropriate to this thread and forum.
Another thing was I trust Tarantino and his nostalgia of cinema; I felt he could've done something special and honor Star Trek. From what I read he expressed an enthusiastic love for TOS and with his choices of bringing back actors he loved from his youth and catapulting them to reinvigorated relevance. It would be an interesting element if he made those kinds of choices for his Star Trek, creating a pocket world set in TOS universe. The way he expressed his confusion of the ridiculous multi-timeline nonsense showed his vision was not set in the JJTrek reality. I agree, Viacom should've encouraged him to go forth with this venture; a space western for the ages. Any fears of him guttering Star Trek with F-bombs and inappropriate gore like what Kurtzman has done with those CBS+Paramount streamings hasn't seen his TV work.
Tarantino knows what Star Trek is and would honor what the series was great at and that's adventure. He directed several episodes of E.R.; he didn't draw attention to his episodes by having excessive blood or characters speaking foul language where there were other episodes done by other writers and directors which had. I believe in his understanding of Star Trek, he would play by the rules and wouldn't ruin the magic that is lost today.
I think Tarantino would do his Tarantino thing and no one would be willing to say no. Which is why I don't trust him with any existing franchise. I believe he would play by his rules not Star Trek's rules.
Mileage will vary if that is a good thing or not. I personally don't think so. But, I am very biased.
Mileage will vary if that is a good thing or not. I personally don't think so. But, I am very biased.
Ask Robert Beltran.
So, lets look at Kalinda.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1576909/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinda_Vazquez
So, on her IMDB she's been around since 2007 as a Producer, Writer, Head Writer in quite a few series.
So its not like she's some person with 1 script to her credit.
I like that she wrote the 1st season of Human Target.. Liked that series, Nikita was good. In all I can't find a fault to ding her on. Which is good.
Now, will she write a good movie script?? No idea, seems to be a fan, which is good. So Optomistic at this point.
Now, my worry is that this is what? 5th? 6th? go around?? These people are getting paid for there work!
Reminds me of Superman Returns, had numerious false starts, and the Cost of those false starts was folded in to the budget for the movie, so the movie may have cost say 150 million, but they spent another 50 million on the aborted attempts, so that jacks up the cost.
So here's hoping they make something before the false starts make the movie fail financially before it even begins!
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1576909/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinda_Vazquez
So, on her IMDB she's been around since 2007 as a Producer, Writer, Head Writer in quite a few series.
So its not like she's some person with 1 script to her credit.
I like that she wrote the 1st season of Human Target.. Liked that series, Nikita was good. In all I can't find a fault to ding her on. Which is good.
Now, will she write a good movie script?? No idea, seems to be a fan, which is good. So Optomistic at this point.
Now, my worry is that this is what? 5th? 6th? go around?? These people are getting paid for there work!
Reminds me of Superman Returns, had numerious false starts, and the Cost of those false starts was folded in to the budget for the movie, so the movie may have cost say 150 million, but they spent another 50 million on the aborted attempts, so that jacks up the cost.
So here's hoping they make something before the false starts make the movie fail financially before it even begins!
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Nope.
I don't know if you can make someone like this see reason or not. Women have had a better chance, but still not great, in the fiction markets, where some of them were at least given a chance, or could use a pseudonym, but chances were few in the 20th century for writing any big sci fi movie. You can't claim half the earth is bad at some thing they've been locked out of until now.
And I'd like to see a newer names handle a Trek movie. We've got PIC for the Starfleet Pension System.
Its fun to talk about a movie that hasn't even been given a green light (and has received quite a few reds, if we count the numerous attempts at a post-beyond movie, but it's another thing to start disparaging a new director. She's not a rookie by any means, but if we say she's new, then good. I'm glad to see a studio have the gumption to give new directors chances. There was a time movie makers like Lucas and Spielberg needed that first chance, too.
And I'd like to see a newer names handle a Trek movie. We've got PIC for the Starfleet Pension System.
Its fun to talk about a movie that hasn't even been given a green light (and has received quite a few reds, if we count the numerous attempts at a post-beyond movie, but it's another thing to start disparaging a new director. She's not a rookie by any means, but if we say she's new, then good. I'm glad to see a studio have the gumption to give new directors chances. There was a time movie makers like Lucas and Spielberg needed that first chance, too.
Because it's Star Trek. It's always had an agenda promoting equality and diversity, even if it's strayed a time or two because of imperfect writing staff.
I’m not even so sure I’d call it an “agenda...” Its more like core/fundamental to what Trek is.
If there was ever a post that fit Women's History Month, I'm sure this wouldn't be it....
I don't know about women who've written transcripts for sci-fi films, but there have been many sci fi books made into movies/TV by women authors--beginning with Frankenstein by Mary Shelley....Metropolis, Thea von Harbou...Orlando, Virginia Woolf....Wrinkle in Time, Madeleine L'Engle....Handmaid's Tale, Margaret Atwood....Hunger Games, Suzanne Collins, etc.
Of course it is. And this one might be. There's only the base assumption because of Abrams' involvement.
https://trekmovie.com/2021/03/10/ex...s-pitched-a-new-star-trek-movie-to-paramount/
Soon there will be more pitches than actual movies!
Soon there will be more pitches than actual movies!
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