Doesn't sound like it.
Justin Lin is directing Star Trek XIII
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Doesn't sound like it.
It's how it's placed, not the fact that Bones is injecting superhuman blood in a tribble. It IS clunky (like so much of this film). Would have been simpler to place it in another scene without Kirk and Khan having an intense discussion.
Not with this movie, no. Probably not with any movie for a good while.
I'm not sure what we're meant to take from "Star Trek 3 will unite old and new Trek". The article doesn't seem to know, either, as the statement is just left hanging - they don't go anywhere with it.
My point is that Paramount made a business decision, hoping to get a larger audience based upon Lin's ability to produce a product on their terms, not just because he is associated with F&F.
Most people will have never heard of Justin Lin. I know I hadn't. He has no chance of removing the social stigma of going to see a Star Trek film, regardless of the film he puts out. Abrams managed it to some extent, probably because he's much more widely known, but with ITD, he failed to build the audience from Trek 2009. Actually, he killed the audience.
As someone said on here the other day, there's very little if any hope of a Star Trek film ever grossing $500m in today's money.
Star Trek has never been a mega-blockbuster franchise like Star Wars or the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Could it be? Well if they had waited longer and found a good producer who could balance fan service with money making abilities (like Kevin Feige) but Paramount has always treated ST as a whore I mean inducement to director/producers.
But hey I hated Abrams and F&F does have that camaraderie we love in ST. Maybe they will get Vin Diesel to play Captain Picard.
If you are going to make bold pronouncements, cite your sources. Otherwise, you do not know what you are talking about.
Good Grief, look at the historical record. Adjusted for inflation, no ST film has broken 500 million. STID was close but poor domestic numbers (it didn't break $300 million) hurt it.
$500m isn't too much of a stretch considering STID only just fell short and the international market keeps on expanding with China in particular going from strength to strength.
The script is the most critical component imho and I am sure Lin has the ability to shoot whatever script he ends up with and do it well. OTOH Bob Orci had never directed anything.
The script is the most critical component imho and I am sure Lin has the ability to shoot whatever script he ends up with and do it well. OTOH Bob Orci had never directed anything.
Please explain. How exactly did he kill the audience?
So much to comment on here. First "the social stigma of going to see a Star Trek movie"? What planet do you live on? Going to see a Star Trek film is a mainstream activity, and while the films do not have the blockbuster power of a Star Wars or Marvel film virtually no one is ostracized because they went to see a Star Trek film.
Second, 'Abrahms killed the audience'? This is just wish fulfillment, a desire to see Trek burn so that your chosen 'vision' can return. It is a statement unsupported by any facts.
Finally continually repeating the idea that a Star Trek film will ever gross $500 million is just an opinion and repeating doesn't make it a fact.
I live in the UK, Star Trek's second biggest market globally, a country where Star Trek fans are still routinely sniggered at by the public, the same public that Paramount hopes will pay to see the next film just because it's being directed by some bloke from Fast and Furious.
To be fair to the British public, when you look at many UK Star Trek fans, it's hard to believe they managed to leave their parents' basement.
Into Darkness took nearly $30m less than Star Trek 2009 at the US box office. Quite a drop when you're already dealing with a finite fan base and an increasing budget. It's logical to assume that a lot of US cinema goers, fans included, saw Star Trek and didn't like it.
I've no particular desire to see new Trek burn. I don't think the writing's is anywhere near up to scratch, but that could be fixed if there was the will to do so. My Trek is never coming back, but I've got more than enough of it to watch should I decide that I can no longer stomach Abrams vision, or more to the point, Orci's writing.
Ooooh, someone's grumpy on Christmas Day. The big red guy not bring you the full sized Deanna Troi blow up doll you asked him for?
I never said it was a fact. I said it was unlikely to ever happen.
Completely unnecessary personal dig, and you've been asked before to refrain from doing that. This one will earn you a warning. Comments to PM.
I don't believe that a Star Trek film will never go over $500 million. I think Paramount has faith that Lin will make a film that does this.
While I do believe they needlessly dragged their ass making STID, I don't think it was a factor in the box office. Being released four years after the previous movie didn't hurt the box office for The Dark Knight Rises, or Skyfall. It wouldn't have mattered for STID either.
I really don't get the logic of going on to a fan board and then hoping and insisting that a movie will fail just so that one can say, "see, I told you so."
So I'm going to let a duck explain it.
So I'm going to let a duck explain it.