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Spoilers Justice League - Grading and Discussion

Grade the Movie

  • A+

    Votes: 7 6.3%
  • A

    Votes: 12 10.8%
  • A-

    Votes: 9 8.1%
  • B+

    Votes: 20 18.0%
  • B

    Votes: 15 13.5%
  • B-

    Votes: 12 10.8%
  • C+

    Votes: 11 9.9%
  • C

    Votes: 6 5.4%
  • C-

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • D+

    Votes: 5 4.5%
  • D

    Votes: 3 2.7%
  • D-

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • F

    Votes: 7 6.3%

  • Total voters
    111
If it weren't for Batman, odds are Superman would still be alive in the first damn place.
Yes, thus the conflict between them and the guilt felt by Batman throughout JL. It's not like this fact isn't addressed in the movie..
 
Yes, thus the conflict between them and the guilt felt by Batman throughout JL. It's not like this fact isn't addressed in the movie..

Which means that the whole point of the JL is merely to clean up their founders' mess...wow, how heroic.

Probably not...

Without the Kryptonite spear he would of been killed by Doomsday.

Eh, if her were at full power instead of being weakened from his battle with Batman he would've been in better shape to fight him. Like tossing him into space or something. Doomsday couldn't fly for some reason.
 
I think the movie was ok.
I didn't really like the running effect of the Flash.
But lt was nice to see Superman smile.
The best fight scene In my opinion was Steppenwolf against the Amazons, It was great to see the Amazons work together, but their armor was ridiculous.
 
Which means that the whole point of the JL is merely to clean up their founders' mess...wow, how heroic.
The whole point of the Justice League was to fight Steppenwolf because Superman was dead. The reasons for his death are just background.
 
The whole point of the Justice League was to fight Steppenwolf because Superman was dead. The reasons for his death are just background.

Uh, no. You can't ignore that Batman was partly responsible for his death. The League turned out to be nigh-useless in the fight with Steppenwolf, so they needed Superman back because he could do what all of them together couldn't do. In the end, all the world needed was Superman and POSSIBLY Cyborg (odds are Superman would've kept Steppenwolf from the last box though). The stars of the film turned out to be unnecessary, and their founder (Batman) is partly responsible for the mess to begin with.

Superman alive = No Steppenwolf invading.
 
In a lot of stories, various heroes seem to cause the threat/issues they face, this is hardly a DC isolated problem
 
In a lot of stories, various heroes seem to cause the threat/issues they face, this is hardly a DC isolated problem

You'd expect more from the JL's first movie than to have it be about them trying to clean up Batman's mess. At least the Iron Man movies acknowledge that Tony is his own worst enemy.
 
You'd expect more from the JL's first movie than to have it be about them trying to clean up Batman's mess. At least the Iron Man movies acknowledge that Tony is his own worst enemy.
You didn't get that the League doesn't trust Batman? He is shown to be manipulative and morally ambiguous. Batman is basically an even shittier Tony Stark.
 
You didn't get that the League doesn't trust Batman?

Aquaman didn't, but Flash and WW were fine with him. There was their single disagreement over reviving Superman and in the end they all went for it.

He is shown to be manipulative and morally ambiguous. Batman is basically an even shittier Tony Stark.

We know that, but the movie doesn't portray him in a negative enough light.
 
As soon as we saw that Diana could cut off a hand, and it did not instantly grow back, I really didn't see Doomsday as a threat.

Cut off his feet, and his ability to fight and jump (well, "land gracefully") is so shit, that he might as well be a noncombatant.
 
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As soon as we saw that Diana could cut off a hand, and it did not instantly grow back, I really didn't see Doomsday a threat.

Cut off his feet, and his ability to fight and jump (well, "land gracefully") is so shit, that he might as well be a noncombatant.

Or...you know...chop off his head.
 
Why doesn't the hero just kill the bad guy right away every time...

All movie plots solved ;)

Easy, put the hero in ACTUAL danger and have them fight someone where that isn't an option. At least not an immediate one.

IE, the Guardians vs Ego where it took an awful bunch of coincidences and plain good luck to win since there was little they could do normally to a being like that.

Hell, I doubt even Superman could stop him with raw power alone. Especially with Ego retaliating.
 
One thing that needs to be accepted when watching these Snyder movies is that he is trying to both make a traditional superhero movie and also deconstruct these heroes at the same time. If you simply can't accept this, you can't possibly enjoy these movies. Snyder's idea in BvS is that Batman as the self proclaimed protector of the world comes to the conclusion that the world is not safe with a Superman. This is a reasonable conclusion. The world is safer without an indestructible being among us. After the Doomsday fight, Batman realized that he was wrong. Not only is Superman a good person, a hero, so to speak, but he is also absolutely necessary to defend the world against super powered threats.

Now, the the comic book Batman would never go through this thought process, but in Snyder's version it's the only conclusion that he could reach given the facts presented.
 
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