Just how many different alternate timelines did Voyager create?

[F. King Daniel]

Non sequitor was about "timestreams", not timelines and it was about changing space more so than time. Space got replaced rather time plit or frayed, even is time was the causal factor.

Parallels was about Quanutm realities. Entire Universes that just happened to be different more so that they had diverged form one another.

They're interchangable technobabble terms. According to "Parallels" there's an alternate reality for every possible outcome of every event, anywhere, ever. That covers everything from "Mirror, Mirror" to "Yesterday's Enterprise" to "Non Sequiter" to "Endgame" to "Shockwave" to STXI.

 

[exodus]

She' didn't erase anything.
If the technology and the events of Admiral Janeway still exist, then her future is an alternate timeline. Nothing in her time was erased, it's just now another possible timeline. It's no different than a mirror universe. If all that technology and memory of her vanished, then that's proof that timeline is erased.

Clearly you attended the Robert Zemeckis school of Back to the Future Timeology. As far as DTI would be concerned, Janeway altered 20 years of Federation history. Just because it still exists in a different timeline doesn't exonerate her for creating the new timeline- the DTI in question will be in THAT timeline.

No, I subscribe to the "Kang the Conqueror" theory from Marvel comics about timelines. Same type of thing they were implying in "YOH". I personally don't subscribe to DTI because books aren't considered actual canon. Sorry.

 

[exodus]

Regardless of the method of origin, the end result appears to be the same.

These days I think all of the universes exist simultaneously in any case...they're not "created", they were always there to begin with.

Honestly, I was always a subscriber to theory from Denzel Washington's "Deja Vu" about the pebble in the river and that any diversion in the time line creates a new one.

 

[Destructor]

I personally don't subscribe to DTI because books aren't considered actual canon. Sorry.

DTI are still canon, because they appeared in DS9. I wasn't talking about the books, I was talking about the institution. They visited Sisko when he went back in time (to make sure he didn't alter the course of history), so why wouldn't they visit Janeway after she went back in time and massively altered history?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Because she was on the other side of the galaxy?

Although if the doctor gets time on the Midas Array to sort out his licensing issues, You'd think that the Department of Temporal Instigations would have been allowed to see if Janeway and the rest of her crew were arch criminals or not?

Maybe they were afraid that they would have to put 7 tenths of the crew in the brig and the Doctor would end up as the Captain?

 

[exodus]

Because she was on the other side of the galaxy?

Although if the doctor gets time on the Midas Array to sort out his licensing issues, You'd think that the Department of Temporal Instigations would have been allowed to see if Janeway and the rest of her crew were arch criminals or not?

Yep.
They also didn't do a damn thing about Henry Starling or the EMH's mobile emitter either. So they don't seem to mind time being altered if it means jump starting a techno revolution a head of time.(pun intended) They also allowed Sisko to alter history by bring back Tribbles from extinction.

 

[Destructor]

They also allowed Sisko to alter history by bring back Tribbles from extinction.

I thought the episode made it clear that they were not informed of this situation.

 

[Destructor]

Also, that doesn't alter the past- that alters the future, which I believe you are legally allowed to alter.

 

[Guy Gardener]

This would have been a fabulous idea for an anthology show.

It's pretty bullshit to keep having Time travel happening to the same people on the same ship week after week, even if it's supposedly a (the first?) "timeship" but what if the show was about the Department of Investigations cleaning up and documenting all the Time Bullshit that happens day to day. Actually it wouldn't have been too different from Warehouse 13 meets X-Filesif you really think about it.

Too late, never mind.

 

[exodus]

Also, that doesn't alter the past- that alters the future, which I believe you are legally allowed to alter.

I guess you solve the issue between Janeway and the DTI then.

 

[exodus]

They also allowed Sisko to alter history by bring back Tribbles from extinction.

I thought the episode made it clear that they were not informed of this situation.

I don't see how they wouldn't eventually discover a species that has returned from extinction and link it back to Sisko.

 

[Destructor]

Also, that doesn't alter the past- that alters the future, which I believe you are legally allowed to alter.

I guess you solve the issue between Janeway and the DTI then.

But she did alter the future- 20 years of it!

 

[Itachi]

. . . only to overwrite them again?

There was the whole "Year From Hell" thing. Then there was that one episode where Voyager was destroyed but Harry Kim survives and then fifteen years later makes it back to the Alpha quadrant to develop the technology to transmit a message back to Voyager in the past to save them. Then there was the whole thing with the finale. Anybody ever keep track of the number of times Voyager's crew has completely sent things off the time track only to hit the "reset" button at the end of the episode?

I love how the season finale was so full of suspense and a whole bunch of awful crap happend... only to end the episode with kind of a "none of this really did happen for the reality we care about" thing so it really didn't matter if you missed it, cause it does absolutly nothing to move the plot along. If Trek had such thing as "fillers" like anime does... Voyager would be the "InuYasha" of Star Trek

 

[exodus]

Also, that doesn't alter the past- that alters the future, which I believe you are legally allowed to alter.

I guess you solve the issue between Janeway and the DTI then.

But she did alter the future- 20 years of it!

Not if it's an alternate timeline.