Timeless is possibly the best Voyager episode?

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I do think "NON SEQUITUR" sets a precedence for Kim in "TIMELESS".

Survivor's guilt.

In "NON SEQUITUR", he felt truly bad about Tom's fate and that Danny Byrd was over there suffering instead of him.

In "TIMELESS"... well, the entire future of Kim was full of survivor's guilt and wanting to change what happened.


In a strange way, the former episode help set up, emotionally, the latter.

A very generous assessment.

 

[Pumpkin Bread]

Ohh yeah I remember that. But if they made Harry an alien they would have had to write for the character rather than just having a side kick good boy.

Yeah, like they're supposed to. Like DS9 did with Nog, a background character. And Bashir, a character who was foundering just like Harry was. But when Bashir's character needed work, the showrunners came in with the genetic enhancement plot, and had S31 recruit him. When Harry's character was in a similar state, nothing was done. That's why these days, Bashir is regarded as a strong character, and Harry is pretty much regarded as pathetic.

If they weren't going to do something with the character, they should have killed him off. Maybe even done it in this episode, have the actual Harry sacrifice himself to save Voyager instead of one who never exists.

It's a boring episode, Harry is boring, everyone else is boring.. I love time travel but damn.

If it helps, it wasn't time travel, it was a visit to an alternate timeline.

 

[DonIago]

Technically 'travelling' to an 'alternate timeline' is a form of 'time travel'.

 

[Pumpkin Bread]

The two are related. Either way, you're repositioned in the time stream. But the results are different.

Ironically, given that Harry's character wasn't really going anywhere, this would have been a decent way to boot him from the show without killing him.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I find him pretty easy on the eye, glad they didn't boot him. And Tim needed someone to play Captain Proton with.

 

[Pumpkin Bread]

I find him pretty easy on the eye, glad they didn't boot him. And Tim needed someone to play Captain Proton with.

Harry could have played Captain Proton just as well as LIEUTENANT Kim.

 

[Frightscape One]

Harry could have played Captain Proton just as well as LIEUTENANT Kim.

Maybe he could... until "NIGHTINGALE" showed us how inept at leadership he was.

 

[Pumpkin Bread]

Maybe he could... until "NIGHTINGALE" showed us how inept at leadership he was.

Harry finding out that despite his high grades at the Academy, he was poorly suited to serve as a Starfleet officer might have been a good development arc for him as well. But unfortunately, the writers painted him as a very competent officer for every episode except that one.

 

[Eddie Roth]

Cold Fire is the best episode!


My favorite episodes:

1. Cold Fire

2. Persistence Of Vision

3. Caretaker

4. Warlord

5. Basics (1 and 2)

6. Future's End

7. Projections

8. Jetrel

9. The Swarm

10. Darkling

11. Tuvix

12. Time And Again

13. Alliances

14. Meld

15. Before And After

16. Ex Post Facto

17. Investigations

18. Fair Trade

19. Initiations

20. Remember

That's... idiosyncatic! Clearly not a Seven of Nine fan But I have to say: LOVE it that Time and Again almost cracks your top 10. May be the same for me.

 

[at Quark's]

Much as I don't like the reset button in general, I don't mind it too much in this case.

I really don't see a way to explore the 'what if Harry f*cked up so badly that the entire crew died as a result and he had to live with that knowledge' scenario without that. And it really is a good story.