Just give us new TOS

[Captain Pike]

I'm not interested in spin-off ideas, in series set in different places with different characters. There is only one setting, one collection of characters I care about - Kirk, Spock, Bones et all on the starship Enterprise.

No bloody sideways reboots or upside-down reboots or space stations or prison ships or whatever craptastic thing people are suggesting next week.

TOS has already been rebooted with the new film. If the film succeeds there will likely be sequels, and hopefully a new series. And if there is, I hope it's not some silly thing set on another ship like some are suggesting. I hope it's Kirk's Enterprise.

Or even better - Pike's Enterprise.

That's what I want to see, none of this other stuff.

 

[mirandafave]

Yes but one of the reasons why people suggest other ideas is that if the movie is a success obviously studios will greenlight sequels but movie sucess means no Kirk, et el on the small screen. Will have to be a different crew/ship. Maybe wherever Pike gets promoted to. And alas, if film a success then any small screen TOS will be based in the Reboot universe - unless there's a mega reset button at the end - which I doubt.

 

[Captain Pike]

Just saying is all. Practicality and all that is fine and dandy, but at the end of the day it's not going to appeal to me anywhere near as much as just a straightforward TOS series.

 

[Jeyl]

Don't talk sh** about Sisco!

 

[miraclefan]

I'm not interested in spin-off ideas, in series set in different places with different characters. There is only one setting, one collection of characters I care about - Kirk, Spock, Bones et all on the starship Enterprise.

No bloody sideways reboots or upside-down reboots or space stations or prison ships or whatever craptastic thing people are suggesting next week.

TOS has already been rebooted with the new film. If the film succeeds there will likely be sequels, and hopefully a new series. And if there is, I hope it's not some silly thing set on another ship like some are suggesting. I hope it's Kirk's Enterprise.

Or even better - Pike's Enterprise.

That's what I want to see, none of this other stuff.

I am all for this idea! except for the Pike thing, I don't think he's going to survive this movie! Just a gut feeling is all.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I'd like that, too, but...

1) unless the movie is a success, we won't get anything more

2) if the movie is a success, we'll get more movies but probably not the TOS actors on TV (since they will be movie stars at that point) and

3) Trek really belongs on TV in addition to movies

But who knows, maybe #2 won't apply and they'll be able to lure the new cast to TV? Stranger things have happened. I just don't think we should count on it.

 

[uniderth]

We don't need a redone TOS. Just watch the Remastered version if you're un-happy with the original version.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

We don't need a redone TOS.

We don't need the original. We just like it.

A new TOS-era series set on the Enterprise would be cool. Putting Pike in command, of course, would already rearrange the crew away from the "only group we care about."

 

[Skywalker]

I don't see a TV series set in the same era featuring the same characters played by the same actors. Aside from Quinto, they're all "film actors," and probably won't want to commit to a long-term network TV series. A series set in the same era/timeline but focusing on a different ship and crew seems far more likely.

 

[uniderth]

We don't need the original. We just like it.

Without the original series there would be no Star Trek. I have bo problem with doing a seriues with Pika and crew but do it with what was seen in "The Cage". Same ship design, same uniform/equipment designs. Find actors that actually look like the originals.

But doing an "original" series JJ style would just be crapping on Star Trek.

 

[Captain Pike]

Just watch the Remastered version if you're un-happy with the original version.

This line of argument (one dare not call it 'logic' even) always makes me scratch my head in bewilderment. Perhaps if I could wipe my memory of ever having seen TOS in the first place like it was a computer bank this could actually be a logical solution.

Who says I'm unhappy? I love TOS. So much so that I could recite most of it, line by line, off by heart by now. You can only watch those 79 episodes so many times though, even the best of them. Granted, absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that - I give them a rest for a year or 2 and then revisit them again every now and then, but I wan't MORE - new stories goddammit! And TOSR, while novel in the short-term, is no substitute for new Star Trek (and by that I mean new TOS) stories.

And not some silly wannabe son-of-Trek spin-off - it just won't cut it for me. Not Captain Wesley Crusher on the Section 31 29th century Briar-Patch cruising supership USS Try-hard - that doesn't interest me at all. Sure the spin-offs have had their moments, some even quite good ones, but it's not Star Trek to me.

 

[uniderth]

This line of argument (one dare not call it 'logic' even) always makes me scratch my head in bewilderment. Perhaps if I could wipe my memory of ever having seen TOS in the first place like it was a computer bank this could actually be a logical solution.

Your right. But I wasn't refering to stories here. I was refering to having an "up-to-date" look.

Who says I'm unhappy? I love TOS. So much so that I could recite most of it, line by line, off by heart by now. You can only watch those 79 episodes so many times though, even the best of them. Granted, absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that - I give them a rest for a year or 2 and then revisit them again every now and then, but I wan't MORE - new stories goddammit! And TOSR, while novel in the short-term, is no substitute for new Star Trek (and by that I mean new TOS) stories.

And not some silly wannabe son-of-Trek spin-off - it just won't cut it for me. Not Captain Wesley Crusher on the Section 31 29th century Briar-Patch cruising supership USS Try-hard - that doesn't interest me at all. Sure the spin-offs have had their moments, some even quite good ones, but it's not Star Trek to me.

Man a Captain Wesley Crusher series would SUCK! But I agree having new TOS episodes would be AWESOME! But it would have to be done the right way. Make it actually TOS. Same ship design, same uniform designs. Find actors that look and sound like the originals. If not possible find actors who look like them and then dub the voices from people who sound like them. If that's not possible. Green screen the actors faces and put CGI faces on them. Make it so theres no difference between watching 60's original episodes and 2000's original episodes.

Of course another way to avoid the problem of finding look alike actors would be to do a series with Captain Robert April and the first five year mission fo the Enterprise. But still the ship and technologies would have to look like they are a reasonable predecessor to Pike's Enterprise in "The Cage." There's enough potential Original series to fulfill all our desires. There could be five series:

April - Pike(first 5 years) - Pike (second 5 years) - Finish Kirk's five year mission - Phase 2(Kirk on the updated Enerprise)

A JJ-version of the original series wouldn't be more of the original series.

 

[Dar70]

Just watch the Remastered version if you're un-happy with the original version.

This line of argument (one dare not call it 'logic' even) always makes me scratch my head in bewilderment. Perhaps if I could wipe my memory of ever having seen TOS in the first place like it was a computer bank this could actually be a logical solution.

Who says I'm unhappy? I love TOS. So much so that I could recite most of it, line by line, off by heart by now. You can only watch those 79 episodes so many times though, even the best of them. Granted, absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that - I give them a rest for a year or 2 and then revisit them again every now and then, but I wan't MORE - new stories goddammit! And TOSR, while novel in the short-term, is no substitute for new Star Trek (and by that I mean new TOS) stories.

And not some silly wannabe son-of-Trek spin-off - it just won't cut it for me. Not Captain Wesley Crusher on the Section 31 29th century Briar-Patch cruising supership USS Try-hard - that doesn't interest me at all. Sure the spin-offs have had their moments, some even quite good ones, but it's not Star Trek to me.

Its just not gonna happen. TOS is great but the stories seem watered down today compared to other series. I wouldnt mind a series set in the TOS era, but not with Kirk and Spock. A different ship would be able to avoid all the continuity issues plus there would be no bitching from fans.

The stories would also have to be better than tos. I would want more fleshed out stories and characters plus several arcs.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

We don't need the original. We just like it.

Without the original series there would be no Star Trek.

Exactly.

We don't need the original. We just like it.

 

[uniderth]

Exactly.

We don't need the original. We just like it.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you are saying.

True, we don't need Star Trek as a part of human survival. In that realm TOS is a want, not a need.

However TOS is needed as far at Star Trek is concerned because without it neither Star Trek nor Star Trek fans would exist.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Exactly.

We don't need the original. We just like it.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you are saying.

True, we don't need Star Trek as a part of human survival. In that realm TOS is a want, not a need.

All right, then, what don't you understand?

Saying "we don't need a new version of TOS" is both self-evidently true - it's not needed for survival - and beside the point. Some of us might like a new version of TOS. Same as we didn't need, but liked, the original.

 

[Aquehonga]

Be careful what you wish for Captain Pike!

STPTB could very well make a new Trek series as you're suggesting, but completely botch it

I agree with your basic concept or idea here. Tis what Captain Beckett's 4-year gallivant utterly lacked. And should've been.

If STPTB make a new TOS show I say film it in 16 mm, re-use TOS's music, lettering style & do the opening/ending credits the same way TOS did them.

I like the idea of such a show being pre-Kirk. Either Captains April or Pike

Captain Pike, you had an A+ AWESOME idea there for a 29th Century Captain Wesley Crusher Section 31 Briar Patch USS Try-hard series

WOW! SImply WOW! Hot diggety!

Are Reed & Bashir on the Try-hard?

What about Doc Flocks & Neal Icks?

Is Nog Wesley's 1st Officer? Jake the Com Officer?

WOW! That 29th Century show'd be a rawhide shoot'em up rin-tin-tin bar brawl melee in outer space 22 weeks a year!

Yippee

Me thinks Me like'em you USS Try-hard showboat eye-dear bestest best bests of all dude

 

[uniderth]

Me thinks Me like'em you USS Try-hard showboat eye-dear bestest best bests of all dude

WHAT?!?!?! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

 

[Aquehonga]

Captain Pike, one thing to really add spice & make your USS Try-hard series idea even betterer is have Skipper Wes's main baddy adversary be Future Guy from Beckett's show.

Have'em fighting Future Guy all over the Milky Way & across time

Be sure'n have Future Guy twirling his moustache & laughing diabolically as Wes can't capture or stop Future Guy or his hired goons.

Future Guy should be shown sitting in smoke-filled rooms talking with shady characters & meeting crooked baddies in dark alleys.

Great Scott, I think you're on to something with this Captain Crusher idea my boy.

 

[uniderth]

Some of us might like a new version of TOS. Same as we didn't need, but liked, the original.

But you do nned TOS because without TOS there would be no Star Trek to like.