Jurassic World website opens

[Mage]

According to the director, the new Dinosaur is developed because the visitors got bored of the same old Dinosaurs so they developed a new hybrid creature.

That's a strange reasoning. One, they're dinosaurs. I don't think the intrigue would fade that quickly, if ever. And two, zoos seem to do alright without having to genetically engineer crazy new animals. If baby pandas can keep interest high, extinct dinos should have even less trouble with that.

Humans get bored of the newest thing so quickly. Even themeparks and zoos suffer from this. What was hot two years ago, isn't anymore. So yeah, I'm betting that after a few years, people will get less excited about dinosaurs.
And even if they didn't, marketers are always thinking of the next big thing to keep people psyched about their merchandise.

I mean, even in the original novel, Michael Chrichton already brought up this point, when Wu tried to sell the idea of genetically altering the dinosaurs, going to a new version of the DNA, to make them slower and appear stupid, because that's the general idea people still had of dinosaurs in the late 80's. So why not give them what they want, instead of what's real?

This movie actually works with a plot point Chrichton himself already thought of 25 years ago.... No matter how great you think what you're selling is, people will get bored with it, so make sure you've got something new and improved in the background.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Seems like a movie that will be made to order for Cinema Sins to do their "Everything wrong with" videos.

 

[Trekker4747]

According to the director, the new Dinosaur is developed because the visitors got bored of the same old Dinosaurs so they developed a new hybrid creature.

That's a strange reasoning. One, they're dinosaurs. I don't think the intrigue would fade that quickly, if ever. And two, zoos seem to do alright without having to genetically engineer crazy new animals. If baby pandas can keep interest high, extinct dinos should have even less trouble with that.

Yeah, that's sort of odd reasoning on their part. Zoos still do very, very well even with the back-lash they get on holding animals in captivity.

But maybe Jurassic Park/World has a tougher time to get people to justify tons of money to visit it?

 

[Professor Zoom]

So, basically, it's Jurassic Park except BIGGER, FASTER, LONGER....
Same story but now with MORE effects!
Basically the same characters but with DIFFERENT actors! (Seriously, Pratt's warning in the trailer could've come out of Goldblum's character.) (And for fuck's sake, I'm a little tired of: Scientists don't know what they are doing!)

Pass.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Decent trailer, but I don't like the idea of a genetically new creation of a dinosaur. There are so many great dinosaurs to choose from, why create a fake? That goes both for in story and behind the scenes. I don't buy people getting bored by them. Has humanity really become that pathetic?

 

[Hartzilla2007]

And haven't they done the "super-intelligent" dinosaur thing in every movie so far? I guess this one's supposed to be even... more intelligent?

Actually I think its bigger than the Raptors, like T-Rex sized.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Decent trailer, but I don't like the idea of a genetically new creation of a dinosaur. There are so many great dinosaurs to choose from, why create a fake? That goes both for in story and behind the scenes. I don't buy people getting bored by them. Has humanity really become that pathetic?

Yes.

People can't even go out to eat without being on their damn phones or having portable DVD players blaring obnoxiously the whole time. Most people don't have that high of attention spans to begin with. At this point, it been seventeen years since the T-Rex rampaged through San Diego. The kids at this park wouldn't even have been born yet. From their point of view, looking at dinosaurs would be no more interesting than seeing an owl exhibit at the zoo.

 

[Mage]

Has humanity really become that pathetic?

Look at the world. Look at media. Look at how quickly we loose interest in anything. Anything. Yes, I believe that after a few years we would loose interest. Because we get the next newest biggest bestest thing shuffed in our faces by ads everywhere. We genetically engineer our foods to be 'better' then what nature gives us, because we want them to look or feel a certain way.

We, as geeks and nerds, would love to see actual, real dinosaurs. But the general masses, who can't tell a triceratops from a stegasaurus, just want the biggest, louderst and fiercest dino they can think of. And if that doesn't excist, they'll bloody hell make one.
Hell, the whole point of the original novel was that the dinosaurs in the park weren't even real. They had versions. VERSIONS! Those were already adjusted and altered. So why not take the next step?

The whole point of sales, is to make sure you have the item you could introduce after your product stagnates ready to go as soon as you introduce your first product. Make sure sales NEVER drop. And the people behind the park aren't dino-fans. They are salesmen. So sure they have a replacement product standing by to make sure that, as soon as your product starts selling less, you can bring in the sequel.

Welcome to the 21st century, where history is a product and we aren't ashamed to alter it if it sells better that way.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

According to the director, the new Dinosaur is developed because the visitors got bored of the same old Dinosaurs so they developed a new hybrid creature.

That's a strange reasoning. One, they're dinosaurs. I don't think the intrigue would fade that quickly, if ever. And two, zoos seem to do alright without having to genetically engineer crazy new animals. If baby pandas can keep interest high, extinct dinos should have even less trouble with that.

Yeah, that's sort of odd reasoning on their part. Zoos still do very, very well even with the back-lash they get on holding animals in captivity.

But maybe Jurassic Park/World has a tougher time to get people to justify tons of money to visit it?

Plus from what I understand the Park in movie has been operating for a decade.

 

[Mr Light]

I'm a huge geek for theme parks, so the most exciting thing for me about this is that it's set in a fully functional theme park full of people. I really can't wait to see that, and that's not something we ever saw in a JP movie before now.

I am a little concerned about this 'genetically engineered super dinosaur' though. It brings up that horrible rumor ten years ago about human dinosaur hybrids using guns... *barf*

 

[bigdaddy]

Has humanity really become that pathetic?

Yes.

I am a little concerned about this 'genetically engineered super dinosaur' though. It brings up that horrible rumor ten years ago about human dinosaur hybrids using guns... *barf*

That wasn't a rumor or a nightmare, it was true and got canceled. You can find what the crazy monster things were going to look at online.

Also there are only two islands, Nublar and Sorna. Sorna is in a five-island chain but perhaps the other islands weren't suitable for the large scale 'factory floor' of Site B.

Why not create the new hybrid dinosaurs on Site B then?

 

[Trekker4747]

I'm guessing the dinosaur in the "dolphin/whale tank" was a Megalodon ?

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

That's what I thought. And so as of 2015, millions will think that people who enjoy the simple Japanese dish of prepared fish or meat over rice will think that they're eating dinosaurs. I'm down with that.

As to the trailer, I'm only mildly surprised that every other person in the crowd scenes was using their cellphones to capture pretty much everything. Social commentary a-coming?

Mark

 

[ThunderAeroI]

So its Species, but with Dinos?

Not terribly original...

 

[Velocity]

Or at least part Megalodon. I love bug eyed monster movies and dinosaurs, so I'm going to watch this one.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Here is the trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFinNxS5KN4

That was 1:15 of a great trailer, but everything starts going downhill once the awesome Mosasaur stadium scene is over. The update to the park design is excellent, the inclusion of aquatic dinosaurs is great, the new bubble vehicles and monorails are cool, and the sheer number of potential Dino-McNuggets... I mean park visitors, raises the stakes dramatically.

But then they start talking about hybrid dinos, which is looking like a mix of the T.rex with Raptor's intelligence and Spinosaurus' powerful arms and claws, complete with a mix of all three dinosaur's signature sounds, and I start tuning out. Because there are plenty of real dinosaurs they haven't used yet, ones from the books that haven't been shown on film (the chameleon dinosaurs), and there's no reason why they couldn't do new and amazing things with the dinosaurs they've used before. You don't constantly have to one-up the T.rex. The T.rex is exciting enough on its own. Now, it's not terrible ideas like the human/dino hybrids from the original JP4 concept, and it could still turn out okay, but I kind of groaned at that part. Plus, even if you're trying to grab the attention of a bored, disaffected public, I can't buy the idea that you'd create an unpredictable hybrid of your two or three most dangerous dinosaurs that's intelligent and possibly too big for your fences to contain.

I like Chris Pratt. I think he's funny in the lovable doofus sense, and think he's great in Guardians of the Galaxy and Parks & Recreation. But I can't take him seriously when he's trying to be dramatic Chris Pratt and telling us how "She will KEILLL anything that moves!" He's just not believable as a paleontologist or a wildlife expert.

Which brings us to the worst scene of the trailer. At first I thought maybe they were just releasing Raptors in some sort of cruel horse race toward food or something, to show the decadence of the park and visitors. Then Chris Pratt shows up borrowing Captain America's motorcycle. Okay. Then the Raptors start running in formation with Star Lord, and I was like WTF!? Which means he's either trained a group of Raptor friends or he's coated himself in Raptor hormones or some shit so they think he's one of them, and they're all going off to fight the hybrid like a Dino Justice League. Fuck you, trailer. Raptors don't make friends. There's no I in Raptor Team, because they clawed out your eye and ate it after setting up a decoy to distract you.

Stuff like the kids in peril thing is unfortunately just a feature the Jurassic Park filmmakers seem to consider necessary at this point, and it can go either way. There were obviously going to be kids in peril regardless since it was an amusement park again, but I don't know if it's really necessary to include them as main characters as a way for kids in the audience to relate. They'll just dig it for the dinosaurs. It's kind of weird that their parents sent them off to an amusement park without them, and then taunted the young kid with jokes about being eaten when, you know, that's something that's actually happened three times before (four if you count San Diego separately).

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I'm guessing the dinosaur in the "dolphin/whale tank" was a Megalodon ?

Some type of Mosasaur, possibly Hainosaurus or Tylosaurus. Looks like they took some liberties with the size and made it a little bigger than reality (even though it was pretty huge on its own) so it could swallow the Great White in one gulp. Not that I'm complaining.

 

[MacLeod]

An intelligent genetically engineered killing monster that the scientist didn't see anything bad occurring after its creation.

That's fresh and exciting.

You know this reminds me of something give me a minute it'll come to me, ah yes "Deep Blue Sea".

 

[Mr Light]

I was complaining about the tamed raptors and my friend had an excellent idea;

since the first two movies were about attempts to build a theme park ending horribly wrong when the dinosaurs went amok and killed people...

...this time around when they engineered the dinosaurs they bred out all aggressive traits to make them completely docile.

In the trailer we see people kayaking down a river right next to a stegosaurus who could easily kill them if he wanted to. Clearly, this is considered a safe act.

And then of course, the twist happens when they create a new super-dino who does not accept the docile genes.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Decent trailer, but I don't like the idea of a genetically new creation of a dinosaur. There are so many great dinosaurs to choose from, why create a fake? That goes both for in story and behind the scenes. I don't buy people getting bored by them. Has humanity really become that pathetic?

Yes.

People can't even go out to eat without being on their damn phones or having portable DVD players blaring obnoxiously the whole time. Most people don't have that high of attention spans to begin with. At this point, it been seventeen years since the T-Rex rampaged through San Diego. The kids at this park wouldn't even have been born yet. From their point of view, looking at dinosaurs would be no more interesting than seeing an owl exhibit at the zoo.

Has humanity really become that pathetic?

Look at the world. Look at media. Look at how quickly we loose interest in anything. Anything. Yes, I believe that after a few years we would loose interest. Because we get the next newest biggest bestest thing shuffed in our faces by ads everywhere. We genetically engineer our foods to be 'better' then what nature gives us, because we want them to look or feel a certain way.

We, as geeks and nerds, would love to see actual, real dinosaurs. But the general masses, who can't tell a triceratops from a stegasaurus, just want the biggest, louderst and fiercest dino they can think of. And if that doesn't excist, they'll bloody hell make one.
Hell, the whole point of the original novel was that the dinosaurs in the park weren't even real. They had versions. VERSIONS! Those were already adjusted and altered. So why not take the next step?

The whole point of sales, is to make sure you have the item you could introduce after your product stagnates ready to go as soon as you introduce your first product. Make sure sales NEVER drop. And the people behind the park aren't dino-fans. They are salesmen. So sure they have a replacement product standing by to make sure that, as soon as your product starts selling less, you can bring in the sequel.

Welcome to the 21st century, where history is a product and we aren't ashamed to alter it if it sells better that way.

All great points, which just depresses me all the more. I had hoped they learned from the mistakes from Jurassic Park 3, but I guess that was too much to hope for.