Jurassic World - Discussion and Grading
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And yet what looks like a flock of chickens attacking a person might look more comical than scary.
I enjoyed it. Nice callbacks to the original film.
Neat that some of the things in the projections behind Hammond "Jurassic Tennis" were also on monitors in this film.
Nice that they had the kids salvage a battery from a more recent jeep. Internet nitpickers will have to find something else wrong in that sequence.
Neat that some of the things in the projections behind Hammond "Jurassic Tennis" were also on monitors in this film.
Nice that they had the kids salvage a battery from a more recent jeep. Internet nitpickers will have to find something else wrong in that sequence.
Forget the raptors. Have you seen the pictures of the T-Rex with feathers? Talk about giant scary chickens...
I gave this film an A rating, although I initially felt giving it a B+. It certainly warrants a second viewing.
Some nitpicks:
Did anyone else think the first view of the park looked more like a model? That's how I felt when it zoomed in from a distance.
The younger brother had a retro looking hair, and his room was filled with dinosaur toys, plus the View Master he was peeking through. At that instant, I thought it was a flashback scene from the 1980s showing a young Chris Pratt. That boy turned out to be one of Claire's nephews.
Some nitpicks:
Did anyone else think the first view of the park looked more like a model? That's how I felt when it zoomed in from a distance.
The younger brother had a retro looking hair, and his room was filled with dinosaur toys, plus the View Master he was peeking through. At that instant, I thought it was a flashback scene from the 1980s showing a young Chris Pratt. That boy turned out to be one of Claire's nephews.
Eh, it was okay. I'm giving Jurassic World a C+. I liked it better than The Lost World and Jurassic Park III but still found it just middle of the road.
What did I like?
The dinosaur visuals. They were stunning in the first three movies but they were transcendent in this one. They better be too considering how many generations of CGI separate Jurassic World from the original.
The set pieces. Everything from the hamster ball/waterfall escape to the final fight with the I Rex were top notch and suspenseful. Truly exciting stuff.
The kids. Harley Keener and the other kid were the most realistic kids in the entire series. Not a computer genius, dinosaur nerd or Olympic class athlete between them. Just a pair of average kids who wanted to see some cool shit and got way the fuck over their heads.
Chris Pratt. The man's natural charisma and humor really made a humdrum zen bad ass into a really funny and cool zen bad ass. I don't think I'd be rating the movie as highly as I am if not for him.
What didn't I like? Everything else.
Bryce Dallas Howard's cliche working woman character. It feels like they were just checking off boxes with her. Too busy with work for love and family. CHECK. Has a romantic past with the mail lead. CHECK. Discovers her biological clock after bonding with children. CHECK. Discovers a deep longing for Chris Pratt's penis after they bicker and risk their lives together. CHECK. While there were tons of cliches in the movie Howard's character was the absolute work.
The InGen war monger. Cliche military industrial complex douche clearly intended to serve as a dino meal to the audience's great pleasure.
Douche billionaire. John Hammond lite. Painfully naive for a man of the world.
The stupidity of the staff. Are you honestly fucking telling me there are no emergency contingencies in the case of containment problems after the first movie? They had no evacuation plan whatsoever? Too fucking stupid.
There are a ton of other things that bothered me but these are the only ones that are jumping to the forefront of my mind right now.
To sum it up, I liked Jurassic World. Not loved, liked. I'm glad I saw it. I just don't think it's the greatest thing since spread legs.
What did I like?
The dinosaur visuals. They were stunning in the first three movies but they were transcendent in this one. They better be too considering how many generations of CGI separate Jurassic World from the original.
The set pieces. Everything from the hamster ball/waterfall escape to the final fight with the I Rex were top notch and suspenseful. Truly exciting stuff.
The kids. Harley Keener and the other kid were the most realistic kids in the entire series. Not a computer genius, dinosaur nerd or Olympic class athlete between them. Just a pair of average kids who wanted to see some cool shit and got way the fuck over their heads.
Chris Pratt. The man's natural charisma and humor really made a humdrum zen bad ass into a really funny and cool zen bad ass. I don't think I'd be rating the movie as highly as I am if not for him.
What didn't I like? Everything else.
Bryce Dallas Howard's cliche working woman character. It feels like they were just checking off boxes with her. Too busy with work for love and family. CHECK. Has a romantic past with the mail lead. CHECK. Discovers her biological clock after bonding with children. CHECK. Discovers a deep longing for Chris Pratt's penis after they bicker and risk their lives together. CHECK. While there were tons of cliches in the movie Howard's character was the absolute work.
The InGen war monger. Cliche military industrial complex douche clearly intended to serve as a dino meal to the audience's great pleasure.
Douche billionaire. John Hammond lite. Painfully naive for a man of the world.
The stupidity of the staff. Are you honestly fucking telling me there are no emergency contingencies in the case of containment problems after the first movie? They had no evacuation plan whatsoever? Too fucking stupid.
There are a ton of other things that bothered me but these are the only ones that are jumping to the forefront of my mind right now.
To sum it up, I liked Jurassic World. Not loved, liked. I'm glad I saw it. I just don't think it's the greatest thing since spread legs.
There's a reason they're called 'cliches' - because they work. All Bryce had to do was be easy on the eyes and not stink up the place with her acting. CHECK and CHECK. (And what straight/bi woman and/or gay man doesn't have a deep longing for Chris Pratt's penis at this point? Not many judging from my Facebook friends...)
And, along with Dr. Wu, a very clever way to set up the next movie - the totally insane movie we almost got (Spoilers: Gun-toting dino mercenaries!!) instead of this film. I have to give 'em credit, they realized it was too big a jump and needed some setting-up.
Sad to say, probably not as fictional a character as we'd like to believe.
Yeah, they did have emergency contingencies, plenty of them - for dinosaurs. I.Rex wasn't a dinosaur, it was a whole 'nother level of monster that they weren't nearly as prepared for as they thought. (Even T.Rex could just barely hold his own with it, and that was with plenty of help!) And as I mentioned earlier, they were working through an evacuation plan - shit just got too real too damn fast.
Just saw it a second time. Still loved it!
How would you ever evacuate 20,000 people from an island when the only transportation are a handful of ferries?
The one thing they SHOULD have had were armored doors and panic rooms everywhere. That central corridor of the park was one big kill zone.
And I really liked the billionaire. He was kind and philosophical and never intended to hurt anybody or cut any corners.
How would you ever evacuate 20,000 people from an island when the only transportation are a handful of ferries?
The one thing they SHOULD have had were armored doors and panic rooms everywhere. That central corridor of the park was one big kill zone.
And I really liked the billionaire. He was kind and philosophical and never intended to hurt anybody or cut any corners.
The park had also apparently been open for quite a while by that point, so it's easy to see how they might have grown complacent and thought they had everything fully under control.
As for Howard's character, I know there's been a lot of debate about it and she certainly had some cliched aspects to her... but seeing as every OTHER character in the movie was a bit of a cartoonish chiche I didn't really see the problem with it at all. And besides, it's not like she wasn't also depicted as a strong woman who was in charge of the entire park, who boldly charged into danger with Pratt to find the kids, and who (spoilers!) ultimately saved the day at the end.
As for Howard's character, I know there's been a lot of debate about it and she certainly had some cliched aspects to her... but seeing as every OTHER character in the movie was a bit of a cartoonish chiche I didn't really see the problem with it at all. And besides, it's not like she wasn't also depicted as a strong woman who was in charge of the entire park, who boldly charged into danger with Pratt to find the kids, and who (spoilers!) ultimately saved the day at the end.
Doctorwhovian
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Sorry if anybody's brought it up already, but...
Anybody else notice that the Tyrannosaur smashes a Spinosaurus skeleton before the battle with the Irex? I think that was sort of an in-joke about Jurassic Park III-which used a Spinosaurus skeleton as the film's logo, and the previous battle where the Sorna T-rex lost.
Though not doing that with the I-Rex probably wasn't a good idea.
Doctorwhovian
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Any thoughts on the music as well? It was kind of like Jurassic Park III-it was OK using the original themes, but the new themes were kind of weak. Then again neither Davis or Giannocho are John Williams 
Noticed the carnivore theme from the first and third films (used mostly in the first film when Ellie and Muldoon search the T-rex paddock) was missing as well, although there is a brief reprise of The Lost World theme...
Noticed the carnivore theme from the first and third films (used mostly in the first film when Ellie and Muldoon search the T-rex paddock) was missing as well, although there is a brief reprise of The Lost World theme...
When Blue charges the I.Rex after it looks like the T-rex is going to lose.
'Jurassic World' Scores Biggest Opening Weekend in History, Beats 'Avengers' Record
Score one for the dinos!
Score one for the dinos!
There were several elements taken from the other movies, but it was a very entertaining movie none the less. The fight at the ned was pretty aswesome and I liked how the raptor finally turned on the IRex. Poor Katie McGrath though, but I guess that's what you get for playing Morgana. The CGI dinosaurs have come a long ways from the mere eight minutes of CGI dinos we saw in the first movie.
The CGI dinosaurs have come a long ways from the mere eight minutes of CGI dinos we saw in the first movie.
I liked the movie OK. I'm not nearly such a huge Chris Pratt fan as most people seem to be these days but he was a charming & commanding presence here. Similarly, Bryce Dallas Howard was engaging and believable, even if she wasn't anything particularly new. She brought a lot of great deadpan humor to the role. And I liked seeing the guy from The New Girl as the main computer guy.
I was kinda disappointed that there weren't more characters from the previous movies in here but I guess that just shows how smart they are to not put themselves in that position again.
I loved the product placement. It felt absolutely authentic to the modern amusement park experience.
What is the deal with the movie military's obsession with training dangerous animals as weapons? This was a frequently recurring theme in the Alien movies as well. Where is this coming from?! I mean, it's not like the real-world military is training tigers to fight wars.
Agreed. They could have even built them into the gift shops. Like those mall store security gates only much heavier.
I had a feeling that might happen. I wanted to avoid the big crowds scrambling for good seating over the weekend but I did still pop by the Arizona Mills Harkins on Saturday for a 3rd viewing of The Avengers: Age of Ultron. Even though I was seeing a totally different movie, just making my way through the theater lobby was an exercise in massive crowd control. I haven't seen such a packed theater lobby since the opening midnight screening of The Avengers 3 years ago. And when I finally did go see Jurassic World at the Ahwatukee AMC, it was way busier than I've ever seen that theater on a Monday afternoon before.
Speaking of Age of Ultron, there are now 2 big summer blockbusters this year that mention cuttlefish. First, you've got Andy Serkis' little sidebar about cuttlefish being his worst fear in The Avengers. Now, you've got Dr. Wu talking about how they used cuttlefish DNA on the I-Rex in Jurassic World. It's giving me flashbacks to 2007...
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Overall, I would rank the movies thusly:
1. Jurassic Park. Still can't beat the original.
2. The Lost World. Deserves way more love than it's been getting. Spielberg took everything he learned from the 1st movie and made it darker, scarier, & with better blending of CGI & animatronics. If it weren't for the stupid San Diego ending, it would have surpassed the original.
3. Jurassic World. Takes the premise of the original and notches it a step further by making it an actual, functioning amusement park. It's the closest any movie has gotten to replicating that magical feeling I had when I saw the original in theaters when I was 10.
4. Jurassic Park III. It's got people getting eaten by dinosaurs, which means it can't be too bad. But the abrupt ending with the guy on the beach with a megaphone is just bizarre. (I only saw it once, 14 years ago, and I'm starting to think that I hallucinated the whole thing.)
I was kinda disappointed that there weren't more characters from the previous movies in here but I guess that just shows how smart they are to not put themselves in that position again.
I loved the product placement. It felt absolutely authentic to the modern amusement park experience.
What is the deal with the movie military's obsession with training dangerous animals as weapons? This was a frequently recurring theme in the Alien movies as well. Where is this coming from?! I mean, it's not like the real-world military is training tigers to fight wars.
Agreed. They could have even built them into the gift shops. Like those mall store security gates only much heavier.
'Jurassic World' Scores Biggest Opening Weekend in History, Beats 'Avengers' Record
Score one for the dinos!
I had a feeling that might happen. I wanted to avoid the big crowds scrambling for good seating over the weekend but I did still pop by the Arizona Mills Harkins on Saturday for a 3rd viewing of The Avengers: Age of Ultron. Even though I was seeing a totally different movie, just making my way through the theater lobby was an exercise in massive crowd control. I haven't seen such a packed theater lobby since the opening midnight screening of The Avengers 3 years ago. And when I finally did go see Jurassic World at the Ahwatukee AMC, it was way busier than I've ever seen that theater on a Monday afternoon before.
Speaking of Age of Ultron, there are now 2 big summer blockbusters this year that mention cuttlefish. First, you've got Andy Serkis' little sidebar about cuttlefish being his worst fear in The Avengers. Now, you've got Dr. Wu talking about how they used cuttlefish DNA on the I-Rex in Jurassic World. It's giving me flashbacks to 2007...
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xUNSOGukQk[/yt]
Overall, I would rank the movies thusly:
1. Jurassic Park. Still can't beat the original.
2. The Lost World. Deserves way more love than it's been getting. Spielberg took everything he learned from the 1st movie and made it darker, scarier, & with better blending of CGI & animatronics. If it weren't for the stupid San Diego ending, it would have surpassed the original.
3. Jurassic World. Takes the premise of the original and notches it a step further by making it an actual, functioning amusement park. It's the closest any movie has gotten to replicating that magical feeling I had when I saw the original in theaters when I was 10.
4. Jurassic Park III. It's got people getting eaten by dinosaurs, which means it can't be too bad. But the abrupt ending with the guy on the beach with a megaphone is just bizarre. (I only saw it once, 14 years ago, and I'm starting to think that I hallucinated the whole thing.)
Doctorwhovian
Fleet Captain
The scene in which the ACU fight the I-rex is pretty much inspired by ALIENS as well. You've got these guys going in there with a bit of a disadvantage (in ALIENS, having to give up the rifles, and have only the flame units/Hick's shotgun, and the smartguns which Drake and Vasquez secretly re-loaded, in JURASSIC WORLD the non-lethal weaponry/tasers) and of course the vital function moniters and cameras. Also the camoflague of the Irex is similar to the Aliens hiding in the similar-looking walls. This was also sort of true of the later Raptor scenes as well.
As for The Lost World, the original ending to the film in the script and storyboard was going to be them facing off against the Pterandons after the Raptors and before escaping the island, and then have Ian Malcolm at Hammond's funeral. However Spielberg decided-perhaps because of the coming 1998 Godzilla film-to have an alternate ending which is what we got. The original ending probably would've fit in better with the fairly dark tone of the rest of the film. Presumabely, the Dinosaurs would have still been a secret.
Funny thing is it also would've worked better with Jurassic World continuity, in which Sorna/San Diego isn't mentioned at all. Pretty much apart from the use of the theme, all that seems to be mentioned from The Lost World is that Hammond 'died' presumabely in 1997.
As for The Lost World, the original ending to the film in the script and storyboard was going to be them facing off against the Pterandons after the Raptors and before escaping the island, and then have Ian Malcolm at Hammond's funeral. However Spielberg decided-perhaps because of the coming 1998 Godzilla film-to have an alternate ending which is what we got. The original ending probably would've fit in better with the fairly dark tone of the rest of the film. Presumabely, the Dinosaurs would have still been a secret.
Funny thing is it also would've worked better with Jurassic World continuity, in which Sorna/San Diego isn't mentioned at all. Pretty much apart from the use of the theme, all that seems to be mentioned from The Lost World is that Hammond 'died' presumabely in 1997.
<<The one thing they SHOULD have had were armored doors and panic rooms everywhere. That central corridor of the park was one big kill zone.>>
Well whatdoya know. I'm reading Jurassic Park the novel right now and when Grant gets to his hotel room there's a heavy metal door, thick iron bars over the skylight, and the windows are tiny reinforced glass. And the hotel is hidden behind a vast fence of twelve foot tall iron bars.
Well whatdoya know. I'm reading Jurassic Park the novel right now and when Grant gets to his hotel room there's a heavy metal door, thick iron bars over the skylight, and the windows are tiny reinforced glass. And the hotel is hidden behind a vast fence of twelve foot tall iron bars.
What I thought was so stupid was, once they saw the I-Rex "talking" to the raptors and realized that the I-Rex had replaced Owen as their new Alpha, why did they still follow the dinosaurs into the forest? I kept feeling like that one guy from The Lost World: "Don't go into the long grass! Not into the long grass!"
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IMO, The Lost World should have ended on a cliffhanger. I would have kept everything the same in the movie up through the boat crash in San Diego. The T-Rex bursts out of the cargo hold and you see it roaring into the night sky with the city skyline in the background. The End. The problem with the San Diego sequence is that it's cooler when you imagine it than when you actually see it.
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