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I am; you're a passing nuisance at most. You might be a little less so if you just cared enough to capitalize and punctuate correctly.
There is that.
dennis if you would take a few minutes to read you would fined out that i am recovering from shoulder surgery and have the use of just one hand. i stated that at the very beginning of this topic. try not to be such a butt hole!
I've seen movies that really are sloppy, and this isn't one of them. They had extra time to work on the editing, and things were shuffled around at the last second, but these CHOICES certainly aren't sloppy.
I agree it does seem a little awkward, though I can't say it ever really bothered me. I think it would have been worse had they let that shot linger a few more frames instead.
Well, this is obviously a reintrodcuction to Kirk. The scene shouldn't really be taken so literally, and we have to remember that directors like to take liberties for the sake of drama.
This is not a "Jump Cut", since the shot is of Spock in the turbolift the entire time. However, we don't really know where in the ship Spock is entering from. Obviously it is one of the lower decks, but it may not be near the shuttlebay. And its not a huge stretch to believe that the turbolifts on the ship can move fast enough to go from the secondary hull to the bridge in a few seconds. I actually thought it was kinda cool.
yea i like when kirk is finally in uniform
JB - never said it was a jump cut.
Spock was in engineering. While they changed a lot about the ship - such as not bothering to build an actual engineering set - it seems engineering is still in the secondary hull.
Upon coming to the bridge, Spock reports something about engineering, making it clear that's where he just was.
While I can accept "fast" turbolifts, the speed at which he gets from engineering to the bridge is just way too fast. It's beyond ludicrous speed from Spaceballs, as I think about it... I guess he went to plaid.
But looking at the history of Trek, I can see that the length of time characters spend in turbolifts is usually directly related to how much dialogue they need to get out before reaching their destination. And given how gee-whiz-flash-bang-zoom this movie was, having Spock standing alone in the turbolift for 10 seconds would've been like crashing into a brick wall.
Spock was in engineering. While they changed a lot about the ship - such as not bothering to build an actual engineering set - it seems engineering is still in the secondary hull.
Upon coming to the bridge, Spock reports something about engineering, making it clear that's where he just was.
While I can accept "fast" turbolifts, the speed at which he gets from engineering to the bridge is just way too fast. It's beyond ludicrous speed from Spaceballs, as I think about it... I guess he went to plaid.
But looking at the history of Trek, I can see that the length of time characters spend in turbolifts is usually directly related to how much dialogue they need to get out before reaching their destination. And given how gee-whiz-flash-bang-zoom this movie was, having Spock standing alone in the turbolift for 10 seconds would've been like crashing into a brick wall.
And there it comes full circle. Turbolifts always have, and still do, travel at the speed of plot.
That was my thought. Although, to be fair, American movies try to disguise jumpcuts because they can be pretty abrasive. They weren't in this case, though, since most people didn't notice it.
^ yep i did not notice it at first but since i do now it is very distracting to the eye, at least for my eye. the turbolift is to fast as well. on another note i like the shot outside the view screen/ window of the bridge and i am a purist.
True dat.
This speed limit people impose on turbolifts, (and the ship, for that matter) really crack me up.
If they have inertial dampeners capable of keeping people from becoming red smears on the back wall when going to warp then why are instant turbolift speeds so hard to swallow???
If they have inertial dampeners capable of keeping people from becoming red smears on the back wall when going to warp then why are instant turbolift speeds so hard to swallow???
While I can accept "fast" turbolifts, the speed at which he gets from engineering to the bridge is just way too fast. It's beyond ludicrous speed from Spaceballs, as I think about it... I guess he went to plaid.
It doesn't matter what people "can accept." Trek is what it is.
I found the editing to be pretty annoying. Wasn't my pace, I guess. I felt that they cut away from shots at the wrong time, there where many jump cuts, and yeah well the nice editing glitch with 3 minutes to Romulus.
You all have the DVD, you can check:
The fleet goes to warp, Sulu forgets about the technobabble, the Enterprise goes to warp. CUT TO: sickbay, where McCoy and Kirk enter, Kirk gets unconscious. CUT TO: bridge, Sulu states that they reached maximum warp. Pike asks Chekov for his name, and orders him to inform the crew. Chekov informs the crew, he also says that they will be arriving at Vulcan in 3 minutes, and then CUT TO: sickbay, Kirk hears the word "lightning storm" and wakes up. And then he runs to Uhura and to the bridge, and the ship arrives at Vulcan.
The INTENTION was to have a time passage, because we see McCoy redressed, doing different things, and acting like Kirk was unconscious for some time. But the EXECUTION in the editing room was sloppy, resulting in what we see in the final movie, where there is no time passage.
The only place where you could fill more time in is between Kirk getting unconscious and Sulu stating that they reached maximum warp. But I always felt that in Trek they reach maximum warp in under a minute.
You all have the DVD, you can check:
The fleet goes to warp, Sulu forgets about the technobabble, the Enterprise goes to warp. CUT TO: sickbay, where McCoy and Kirk enter, Kirk gets unconscious. CUT TO: bridge, Sulu states that they reached maximum warp. Pike asks Chekov for his name, and orders him to inform the crew. Chekov informs the crew, he also says that they will be arriving at Vulcan in 3 minutes, and then CUT TO: sickbay, Kirk hears the word "lightning storm" and wakes up. And then he runs to Uhura and to the bridge, and the ship arrives at Vulcan.
The INTENTION was to have a time passage, because we see McCoy redressed, doing different things, and acting like Kirk was unconscious for some time. But the EXECUTION in the editing room was sloppy, resulting in what we see in the final movie, where there is no time passage.
The only place where you could fill more time in is between Kirk getting unconscious and Sulu stating that they reached maximum warp. But I always felt that in Trek they reach maximum warp in under a minute.
i agree it is awkward like someone who had never edited film or video tape before was in charge.
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