"Journey To Babel" Hacked Up?

[tranya]

Just rewatched "Journey to Babel" last night, and for the first time in a long while. It struck me that it felt like there were some major edits in this one for time -- the moment when Kirk gets jumped by Thelev, in particular, seems really off, as though there was a bit of a fight/incident before that got cut for time. Does anyone know if this was the case?

 

[Maurice]

Just rewatched "Journey to Babel" last night, and for the first time in a long while. It struck me that it felt like there were some major edits in this one for time -- the moment when Kirk gets jumped by Thelev, in particular, seems really off, as though there was a bit of a fight/incident before that got cut for time. Does anyone know if this was the case?

Kirk's fight was always cut to abruptly. One of the reels of trims on YouTube shows the beginning of the fight, where Thelev comes out of a radial corridor and starts the fight, but it was never in the aired episode.

 

[cooleddie74]

Actually, the Remastered edit has MORE of the Kirk/Thelev corridor fight intact than the old syndicated versions tended to. Most when I was growing up and into my twenties had the fight start just before Kirk flips Thelev onto the deck.

 

[KeepOnTrekking]

Getting back to the YouTube clip, wasn't there a crewmen walking down the hall and around the bend out of sight just before Thelev came out to jump Kirk? Was the abrupt edit there to avoid showing that crewperson and raise the question of why didn't he hear the fight and come back to help?

 

[cooleddie74]

It's the TOS Enterprise. Of course nobody's going to be there in the corridor to help when trouble brews.

 

[tranya]

Plus, c'mon, it's Kirk. He likes this kind of thing, no one's gonna get in his way.

 

[cooleddie74]

432 people. 23 decks. And not a soul in sight when a light bulb blows.

 

[stoneagepunk]

on the dvds i've got it is shorter than I remembered it, esp. that fight scene

 

[Zeppster]

432 people. 23 decks. And not a soul in sight when a light bulb blows.

It's amazing that a ship that crowded often only seemed to have 5-10 people at the most on it so often during the show.

Even though there was 50 minutes back then which is about 10 minutes longer than shows are today. You still have to cut some stuff out.

 

[Zeppster]

btw here's the youtube vid of the scene talked about in this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIuM03UsN60

You can clearly see that there's someone walking away from the fight, I guess fights regularly happened on the Enterprise. So they didn't care.

 

[erastus25]

Similarly, in Whom Gods Destroy after the teaser we just jump straight to the unconscious Spock being drug away. Anybody know if there's a missing scene there? It seems incredibly abrupt.

 

[cooleddie74]

Similarly, in Whom Gods Destroy after the teaser we just jump straight to the unconscious Spock being drug away. Anybody know if there's a missing scene there? It seems incredibly abrupt.

Like the infamous missing dialogue at the end of "The Omega Glory." Edited in such a way you KNOW something's been cut out even if you can't quite put your finger on it.