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Jonathan Nolan developing Asimov's Foundation to HBO

I like the idea of tie-dyed togas. Not necessarily for Foundation, but just in general. :rommie:
 
foldable/flexible screens exist.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...er-strong-touchscreen-demonstrated-Japan.html

Fabric is thicker than paper.

New style newspapers delivered to your door by children on BMXs, with Harry Potter style moving pictures, will make Harry Potter look like shit. Rejoice a new age of enlightenment!

Imagine if your Toga is playing your favourite movie, or has the screensaver from he Matrix?

That will invent an entire new arm of copyright/piracy concerns if persons shirts and trousers can be playing pirated media?

But then, if you're in a public park under the blatant surveillance of a cctv nest, playing old episodes of the Smurfs on your gusset, you are a douche who deserves to be tazered to sleep by Johnny Law.
 
^^ :rommie:

Imagine if your Toga is playing your favourite movie, or has the screensaver from he Matrix?
It won't be long before they have animated tattoos, and not longer before they have tattoos that can pick up wifi. Foundation is something like 20,000 years in the future, which in real life will be post human as we know it, unless we speculate a series of social collapses. And in the Foundation Universe, everything was controlled by Daneel-- who knows what tastes in fashion a humaniform robot has. :rommie:
 
By the time of Hari Seldon, man had forgotten Earth was their world of origin. There's a passage somewhere about anthropologists/archaeologists trying to figure out where man came from, where it is explained that the prevalent theory is that "man" is from thousands of worlds across the galaxy who met in space and then interbred until the species became as uniform as it is "now" in 12,000 GE. The "Single World Theory" is actually laughed at by most respected anthropologists, but Earth did make the Short list provided. :)
 
Yeah, that was Pelorat's deal. He believed in the single-world origin hypothesis, extrapolated the specs by averaging out conditions on all inhabited worlds, and tracked down the general location by figuring out the length of time various worlds had been inhabited, thereby backtracking the diaspora. First he located some old Spacer worlds, then used them to narrow down the location-- but because of drift, his calculations took him to Alpha Centauri. Finally, he was able to track down Earth from there.
 
A Foundation series would be cool. But they'll need to run a Robot series in parallel to join them together at the end. ;)

By the way, Star Wars' Coruscant has always reminded me of a Trantor rip-off.
 
Because it's metal?

Trantorians are agoraphobic. They live underground and are psychologically repulsed by the sky.

But I can see the producers ignoring that, so that they can havethe cool special effects of a future city, similar to Coruscant.
 
Because it's metal?
No, because they are both planet-wide cities.

I am surprised to learn from a look at the wiki just now that "Asimov describes the 'unbearable glory of the skies of the Central Worlds' (like Trantor) 'where star elbowed star in such blinding competition that the black of night was nearly lost in a coruscant explosion of light'". (The definition of coruscant is glittering or sparkling).

Case closed. Probably lots of fans know this, but I didn't.

There are interesting mentions of Coruscant in the wiki for Trantor, and vice versa:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trantor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coruscant
 
I am surprised to learn from a look at the wiki just now that "Asimov describes the 'unbearable glory of the skies of the Central Worlds' (like Trantor) 'where star elbowed star in such blinding competition that the black of night was nearly lost in a coruscant explosion of light'". (The definition of coruscant is glittering or sparkling).

Case closed.
Except it's not. :) The planetwide city concept initially came from Lucas; but it wasn't until fifteen years later that Zahn applied the Coruscant name to it. (Lucas' called it Alderaan when drafting ANH, and Had Abbadon when drafting ROTJ.) Besides, it's an obvious name if you're looking up synonyms for glittering or sparkling, like a citywide planet would.
 
Even so, if Zahn was at all SF-literate -- as he surely must've been, given that he was a longtime Analog contributor and a Hugo winner well before he ever did Star Wars -- then it seems likely that Lucas's idea for a citywide planet would've reminded him of Trantor. So it's possible he chose the name Coruscant as an homage. Not certain, but possible.
 
Caves of Steel are Caves of Steel universally I suppose?

Oh! Wikipedia says that Asimov himself is Agoraphobic.

Mass-Agoraphobia might be a sign of the decline of an Empire/The Species?
 
Except it's not. :) The planetwide city concept initially came from Lucas; but it wasn't until fifteen years later that Zahn applied the Coruscant name to it. (Lucas' called it Alderaan when drafting ANH, and Had Abbadon when drafting ROTJ.) Besides, it's an obvious name if you're looking up synonyms for glittering or sparkling, like a citywide planet would.


I read that Lucas was heavily inspired by the Foundation series when he created Star Wars, so I'm more inclined to believe the concept was borrowed. Lucas likely didn't want to make a direct reference in order to make his epic stand on its own. When it came to Zahn, it's likely he knew of all that, but felt it would be a nice throwback to what inspired Lucas.
 
Trantorians are agoraphobic. They live underground and are psychologically repulsed by the sky.
Were the Trantorians agoraphobic, too? I just remember that as being the Earthlings of the Spacer era.

No, if I remember Prelude correctly, Trantorians largely weren't agoraphobic. However, they generally didn't go topside, because the planetwide dome played havoc with the weather patterns above.
 
The agoraphobes were the Solarians in The Naked Sun. They were conditioned to despise personal contact, living alone and conducting all interactions by telepresence.
 
Except it's not. :) The planetwide city concept initially came from Lucas; but it wasn't until fifteen years later that Zahn applied the Coruscant name to it. (Lucas' called it Alderaan when drafting ANH, and Had Abbadon when drafting ROTJ.) Besides, it's an obvious name if you're looking up synonyms for glittering or sparkling, like a citywide planet would.


I read that Lucas was heavily inspired by the Foundation series when he created Star Wars, so I'm more inclined to believe the concept was borrowed. Lucas likely didn't want to make a direct reference in order to make his epic stand on its own. When it came to Zahn, it's likely he knew of all that, but felt it would be a nice throwback to what inspired Lucas.
The use of "coruscant" to describe Trantor in Asimov's text convinces me that it was not simply coincidence.
 
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