Joker Origin Story Announced

[Professor Zoom]

Yeah, right. The director saying that he didn't shows it wasn't shown well enough.

And further supports that Arthur was supposed to have been justified in everything he did. Murder and provoking riots and all that.



And tries to justify him in these acts as "People deserving it". Phillips and Phoenix were trying to have their cake and eat it too.



Yes yes yes, we all know how ashamed you are of comics. You'd rather the Asgardians be some insane LARPer cult and the Guardians be a Biker Gang on Earth instead of Aliens.

But silly attitudes like yours are headed for the tarpit, thankfully.



Studios will learn the wrong lessons, they always do. Doesn't change that Joker made its money from lazy film-making.



Kind of obvious.



That he hallucinates her saying she didn't care about him says it all.



Arthur is, when the movie keeps trying to say he was right to kill people.



It's shown, with how he's upset over Sophie. And his degrading relationship with his social worker.



And he also refuses to own up for his own failings and acts like it's everyone elses' fault.

Laziness.

Your laziness is a studio’s billion dollar movie at more than half the cost of an Ant-man movie.

 

[fireproof78]

And tries to justify him in these acts as "People deserving it". Phillips and Phoenix were trying to have their cake and eat it too.

No, actually, that's pretty classic behavior of people struggling with a personality disorder.

And he also refuses to own up for his own failings and acts like it's everyone elses' fault.

Laziness.

Again, not laziness but classic symptoms of a personality disorder, and blame shifting. Very common amongst humans in general, but people who struggle with mental illness often time can adopt very black and white thinking.

Your laziness is a studio’s billion dollar movie at more than half the cost of an Ant-man movie.

Can I be that lazy?

 

[Professor Zoom]

Can I be that lazy?

Me first.

 

[fireproof78]

Me first.

I'd argue with you but that sounds like too much work...

 

[Professor Zoom]

I'd argue with you but that sounds like too much work...

You just made 1 billion dollars.

 

[fireproof78]

You just made 1 billion dollars.

Finally!

 

[Professor Zoom]

Finally!

Don’t spend it all at once.

 

[fireproof78]

Don’t spend it all at once.

I'm too lazy...

 

[Ovation]

Yeah, right. The director saying that he didn't shows it wasn't shown well enough.

And further supports that Arthur was supposed to have been justified in everything he did. Murder and provoking riots and all that.



And tries to justify him in these acts as "People deserving it". Phillips and Phoenix were trying to have their cake and eat it too.



Yes yes yes, we all know how ashamed you are of comics. You'd rather the Asgardians be some insane LARPer cult and the Guardians be a Biker Gang on Earth instead of Aliens.

But silly attitudes like yours are headed for the tarpit, thankfully.



Studios will learn the wrong lessons, they always do. Doesn't change that Joker made its money from lazy film-making.



Kind of obvious.



That he hallucinates her saying she didn't care about him says it all.



Arthur is, when the movie keeps trying to say he was right to kill people.



It's shown, with how he's upset over Sophie. And his degrading relationship with his social worker.



And he also refuses to own up for his own failings and acts like it's everyone elses' fault.

Laziness.

No. (To all of it.)

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

No, actually, that's pretty classic behavior of people struggling with a personality disorder.

Why try to explain that to anyone who does not think a good number of the adapted characters he worships are cardboard cutouts with thin answers to their already simple problems? He's eternally angered that a DC film is one of the most successful in history (particularly with its budget), and celebrated with more thoughts about its value as a film in general (and not just a comic-based movie), along with any Oscar buzz that's driving him to the fits you see here.

 

[fireproof78]

Why try to explain that to anyone who does not think a good number of the adapted characters he worships are cardboard cutouts with thin answers to their already simple problems? He's eternally angered that a DC film is one of the most successful in history (particularly with its budget), and celebrated with more thoughts about its value as a film in general (and not just a comic-based movie), along with any Oscar buzz that's driving him to the fits you see here.

Well, the discussion is about sharing information so it was worth a shot.

But, I agree that Joker's success is going to annoy many in the comic book/film world, for reasons that I will never understand. The success of the film means more made in the genre and from properties. I will never understand how that is a bad thing...

 

[crookeddy]

Well, the discussion is about sharing information so it was worth a shot.

But, I agree that Joker's success is going to annoy many in the comic book/film world, for reasons that I will never understand. The success of the film means more made in the genre and from properties. I will never understand how that is a bad thing...

If they didn't like the movie, why would they want similar movies to be made?

 

[Anwar]

Your laziness is a studio’s billion dollar movie at more than half the cost of an Ant-man movie.

So a Michael Bay film, then?

No, actually, that's pretty classic behavior of people struggling with a personality disorder.

Something seen in better movies like Falling Down, only lacking in that film's self-awareness.

No. (To all of it.)

Yes. (To all of it.).

Why try to explain that to anyone who does not think a good number of the adapted characters he worships are cardboard cutouts with thin answers to their already simple problems? He's eternally angered that a DC film is one of the most successful in history (particularly with its budget), and celebrated with more thoughts about its value as a film in general (and not just a comic-based movie), along with any Oscar buzz that's driving him to the fits you see here.

The sad thing is, you're so easily please by anything pretentious that you immediately see it as having value and not just a "Mentally unwell person becomes a psycho because of how 1-Dimensional everyone else is" cliche-fest.

But, I agree that Joker's success is going to annoy many in the comic book/film world, for reasons that I will never understand. The success of the film means more made in the genre and from properties. I will never understand how that is a bad thing...

It's setting the genre back to where it was in the early to mid 2000s.

 

[Ovation]

So a Michael Bay film, then?



Something seen in better movies like Falling Down, only lacking in that film's self-awareness.



Yes. (To all of it.).



The sad thing is, you're so easily please by anything pretentious that you immediately see it as having value and not just a "Mentally unwell person becomes a psycho because of how 1-Dimensional everyone else is" cliche-fest.



It's setting the genre back to where it was in the early to mid 2000s.

Still no. (To all of it.)

 

[Anwar]

Still no. (To all of it.)

Denial is lovely to witness.

 

[Mudd]

It's quite the giggle to read someone condemning "lazy" filmmaking and defending Marvel product at the same time.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

It's quite the giggle to read someone condemning "lazy" filmmaking and defending Marvel product at the same time.

3

X1000.

 

[Anwar]

It's quite the giggle to read someone condemning "lazy" filmmaking and defending Marvel product at the same time.

3

X1000.

It's a lot lazier to do an INO story than it is to do something that isn't afraid to reject that creatively bankrupt "grounded" setting. Especially since the non-grounded CBM approach is constantly mocked and derided by the dinosaurs to this day.

 

[Ovation]

Denial is lovely to witness.

I know. You’ve been offering so much of it. Thanks for the entertainment.

 

[Professor Zoom]

So a Michael Bay film, then?

Better. Michael Bay movies generally cost more than the Joker did. And don’t win awards.

But the thing is: how many filmmakers would love the success Bay has had? All of them.

You would love the success that Bay has had.

I’m no fan of most of Bay’s work, but the man has a distinct visual that few directors have. That many have tried to emulate and failed.

So, besides snobbery, being called “Michael Bay” isn’t really an insult.