Spoilers Joker: Folie à Deux
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One comment in and someone needs to drag in the MCU.
How about we just focus on this one movie and NOT compare it to anything else?
Personally, I am quite curious but my time is very limited so this will be one movie I'll watch on a streaming service. I like it when a movie gets very mixed reviews from both professionals and the general audience. Means there's something going on.
From the sounds of it the entire movie is designed as a big F-You to the right-wing incels who loved the first one.
So one the hand; yay for acknowledging the unpleasant audience the first movie attracted.
But on the other; are there not better ways of spending 200 million?
So one the hand; yay for acknowledging the unpleasant audience the first movie attracted.
But on the other; are there not better ways of spending 200 million?
So the ending apparently leaked and its causing some uproar
Most of what Arthur is experiencing is made up in his mind.
He gets stabbed at the end by someone who’s apparently the real Joker and Arthur dies.
After stabbing Arthur the other inmate carves a smile on their face and laughs very similarly to Heath Ledgers Joker
He gets stabbed at the end by someone who’s apparently the real Joker and Arthur dies.
After stabbing Arthur the other inmate carves a smile on their face and laughs very similarly to Heath Ledgers Joker
Are there that many "right wing incels" that they can propel a movie to a billion dollars and Academy award wins?
Looks to be a "free" streamer for me.
No, but I've heard some attempt to paint the film using less than..shall we say...well reasoned "facts" about the millions of moviegoers who enjoyed the first movie, and yes, its usually coming from eternally bitter fans of another franchise behind that Kleenex-soaking whine-a-thon.
Cinemascore rating a D, dethroning 2015's Fant4stic (C-) as the worst-rated comic book film ever. Whatever people were anticipating, this aint it.
I was going to wait for streaming in any event, but this reception is pretty disappointing. I was a fan of Joker, though it always struck me as a one-and-done type of flick.
I was going to wait for streaming in any event, but this reception is pretty disappointing. I was a fan of Joker, though it always struck me as a one-and-done type of flick.
This movie has apparently achieved a legendary feat...of scoring a "D" on Cinemascore, making it the lowest rated superhero movie to do so.
That's right! Worse then Morbius (C+), worse then BvS (B), and worse then Quantumania (B)!
That's right! Worse then Morbius (C+), worse then BvS (B), and worse then Quantumania (B)!
I haven't seen Morbius, however among those who enjoy tracking the box office, its status is legendary.
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I haven't done any research on this, but having loved the first movie, I was left with the feeling that it was originally conceived as a non-DC film. I feel it was a story that was conceived as an original idea and then someone in the production stage had the idea to make it a "JOKER" film in order to cash in on the superhero hype. It was a great movie, but there was no space for a sequel that could live up to the original.
Yikes! $37.8 million opening weekend. Less than the projected $40 million. Even worse than "The Marvels" opening weekend.
Ouch. I read a fairly in depth article about this the other day, and it really killed any interest I have in seeing it. It sounds like the whole thing is kind of a mess. I haven't seen the first one either, but I'm a big Harley Quinn and Lady Gaga fan, so her involvement had piqued my curiosity.
There's been speculation online the reason for the 200 million dollar budget of this movie was basically a money laundering scheme
For a movie that is largely a courtroom drama, set almost entirely on soundstages, with no big expensive action set-piece or CGI, there's absolutely no reason this film should cost as much as it did. Even with the director, Phoenix and Gaga taking up a reported $50 million of the budget, that still doesn't quite explain how the rest of the film cost $160 million.
I find it hilarious that now James Gunn is distancing himself from this movie on Twitter. He's distanced himself from a few (sure fire hits) in the past
-The Flash. The movie was endorsed by Tom Cruise. 'The Best Superhero Film Ever Made!'
-Blue Beetle, in the press tours he was vocal about how the character could get folded into the new DCEU, then when it didn't do well he closed the idea off.
Supposed scene in the movie
For a movie that is largely a courtroom drama, set almost entirely on soundstages, with no big expensive action set-piece or CGI, there's absolutely no reason this film should cost as much as it did. Even with the director, Phoenix and Gaga taking up a reported $50 million of the budget, that still doesn't quite explain how the rest of the film cost $160 million.
I find it hilarious that now James Gunn is distancing himself from this movie on Twitter. He's distanced himself from a few (sure fire hits) in the past
-The Flash. The movie was endorsed by Tom Cruise. 'The Best Superhero Film Ever Made!'
-Blue Beetle, in the press tours he was vocal about how the character could get folded into the new DCEU, then when it didn't do well he closed the idea off.
Supposed scene in the movie
Apparently there's a prison rape scene? Why? Feels like they panicked and threw everything at the wall to make it work.
If only they'd ripped off "New York, New York" harder.
Art Buchwald might have said all of Hollywood is one giant money laundering scheme.
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