JJ Abrams is pissed over leaked photos

[Trekkie2]

Oh please. Nothing is better than Twilight.

Wait for it! The Hunger Games is coming. Both express the specific need to...have a boyfriend! It'll make the Spock/Uhura affair pale in comparison.

ewwwwwwwww.....I HATE TWILIGHT

I WILL GIVE HUNGER GAMES A CHANCE#

Zac and Zoe are good actors there scenes were touching and believable.....K-STEW/RPATZ are too horny horrible teens actors who took path in a LUSTFUL story and worse they have dumb down teen girls as fans

Sorry I can’t help myself but I intensely hate TWILIGHT

I'm there with you. The Hunger Games is specifically aimed at the teenage crowd also.

 

[Therin of Andor]

This doesn't even make any sense. It is in the director's interest not to waste the time of the actors doing unnecessary tasks.

Hehehe. Publicity is a necessary task. So are rehearsals. So is stunt blocking. So are photo shoots by the studio stills photographer. This could be any of these. Or, an actual take for the film.

I also recall "Dallas" filmed four possible endings of "Who Shot J.R.?" just to meddle with the plans of those seeking to spill their guts to the media.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Cute.

 

[yenny]

Wait for it! The Hunger Games is coming. Both express the specific need to...have a boyfriend! It'll make the Spock/Uhura affair pale in comparison.

ewwwwwwwww.....I HATE TWILIGHT

I WILL GIVE HUNGER GAMES A CHANCE#

Zac and Zoe are good actors there scenes were touching and believable.....K-STEW/RPATZ are too horny horrible teens actors who took path in a LUSTFUL story and worse they have dumb down teen girls as fans

Sorry I can’t help myself but I intensely hate TWILIGHT

I'm there with you. The Hunger Games is specifically aimed at the teenage crowd also.

Hunger Games. Captain James Kirk uncle is playing on that movie.

 

[FalTorPan]

Leaked photos of... the Enterprise bridge with its blinding spotlights turned off!

 

[CaptainMatt]

JJ should not be so allegedly upset about the leaked photographs. All publicity is good publicity, or so someone once said. He should be thrilled there is still such an interest in his version of Star Trek. Plus, you can't keep secrets like that forever, especially with the internet and other such communication devices. Just take it in stride.

 

[The Wormhole]

JJ should not be so allegedly upset about the leaked photographs. All publicity is good publicity, or so someone once said. He should be thrilled there is still such an interest in his version of Star Trek. Plus, you can't keep secrets like that forever, especially with the internet and other such communication devices. Just take it in stride.

The problem with Abrams is that he has an uber-draconian mind-set and actually believes any kind of knowledge about a movie before it's released ruins it. Or at least that's how I interpret his attitude.

 

[Therin of Andor]

The problem with Abrams is that he has an uber-draconian mind-set and actually believes any kind of knowledge about a movie before it's released ruins it.

Not a problem at all. "The Final Frontier" through "Nemesis" were all spoiled for me by over-enthusiastic fans desperate to exploit every plot detail and tell everyone and everything.

 

[The Wormhole]

The problem with Abrams is that he has an uber-draconian mind-set and actually believes any kind of knowledge about a movie before it's released ruins it.

Not a problem at all. "The Final Frontier" through "Nemesis" were all spoiled for me by over-enthusiastic fans desperate to exploit every plot detail and tell everyone and everything.

That's all fine and good, but going to the lengths Abrams goes to (requiring actors to sign NDAs, needing to be in the presence of a witness while reading the script, the trenchcoats in Trek XI, and now getting pissed over pictures that say shit-all) is overkill.

 

[M'Sharak]

The problem with Abrams is that he has an uber-draconian mind-set and actually believes any kind of knowledge about a movie before it's released ruins it.

Not a problem at all. "The Final Frontier" through "Nemesis" were all spoiled for me by over-enthusiastic fans desperate to exploit every plot detail and tell everyone and everything.

That's all fine and good, but going to the lengths Abrams goes to (requiring actors to sign NDAs, needing to be in the presence of a witness while reading the script, the trenchcoats in Trek XI, and now getting pissed over pictures that say shit-all) is overkill.

NDAs, script control, closed sets and all the rest - none of those are the least bit new in Movie & TV-Land and they're hardly unique to Abrams productions. As for Abrams getting pissed: well, maybe he did and maybe he didn't - all we've got to go by is Saldana saying that "J.J. was very upset" in an off-the-cuff interview outside the Independent Spirit Awards. I'm not sure I'd give that more weight than any of the other things actors are routinely expected to say in support of projects they're working on or are promoting.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

NDAs, script control, closed sets and all the rest - none of those are the least bit new in Movie & TV-Land and they're hardly unique to Abrams productions.

Yep.

Fans focus resentfully on Abrams mainly because he actually makes those things work to a greater degree than a lot of producers.

 

[CaptainMatt]

JJ should not be so allegedly upset about the leaked photographs. All publicity is good publicity, or so someone once said. He should be thrilled there is still such an interest in his version of Star Trek. Plus, you can't keep secrets like that forever, especially with the internet and other such communication devices. Just take it in stride.

The problem with Abrams is that he has an uber-draconian mind-set and actually believes any kind of knowledge about a movie before it's released ruins it. Or at least that's how I interpret his attitude.

JJ should loosen up and realise that the true fans will see his movie regardless of how much they know about it beforehand.

 

[Ovation]

Nah. Much easier to keep suspense if he doesn't "loosen up". Rather have few details than something like the trailer for the movie Double where the main plot twist is revealed about 30 seconds into a 2 minute trailer.

 

[The Wormhole]

Well keeping secrets is one thing, but releasing some info about the movie isn't the be all and end all. Some of us are still speculating on whether or not Khan is going to be in the movie. Something like that, we should have a definitive answer to, yes or no. A basic one sentence plot description would be nice too, not that we can expect one from a guy who gets pissed off over a picture of an actor wearing a black t-shirt.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Why in the world would they want to give a "definitive answer" to whether Khan's in the movie or not if they can keep it a secret?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I like it being a secret. We'll know all about it soon enough.

 

[Therin of Andor]

JJ should loosen up and realise that the true fans will see his movie regardless of how much they know about it beforehand.

What happened with "Nemesis"? The so-called "true fans" exposed every version of the script, in full, on the 'Net, then bad-mouthed the film for months and months as it was still in production and post-production. Even if those fans went to see the movie on opening night, no one else did. Everyone had heard that the diehard fans were not liking what they'd heard.

"Nemesis" was the first ST movie I saw on opening night where the cinema wasn't at capacity. Not even close. It did win its opening weekend Down Under, but the screenings were poorly attended in comparison to the previous nine films.

JJ is not making ST movies for the "true fans". He's making them for the general public. The secrecy is part of what builds anticipation.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

What happened with "Nemesis"? The so-called "true fans" exposed every version of the script, in full, on the 'Net, then bad-mouthed the film for months and months as it was still in production and post-production. Even if those fans went to see the movie on opening night, no one else did. "Nemesis" was the first ST movie I saw on opening night where the cinema wasn't at capacity. It did win its opening weekend Down Under, but the screenings were poorly attended in comparison to the previous nine films.

So, you're saying that fan discussion prior to release had something measurable to do with sinking Nemesis? That sounds rather incredible, to borrow a phrase. Were the non-fans even paying attention to the fan discussions? Were the reviewers? Or did the non-fans just look at the bad reviews?

 

[Therin of Andor]

So, you're saying that fan discussion prior to release had something measurable to do with sinking Nemesis?

The DVD release won its first weekend. So it seems the general public just put off curiosity for a few months.

Were the non-fans even paying attention to the fan discussions?

The bizarrely intense fan scrutiny did permeate the general press, yes.

Or did the non-fans just look at the bad reviews?

ST:TMP and ST V also got "bad reviews". But very good opening night and opening week attendances.

 

[The Wormhole]

Why in the world would they want to give a "definitive answer" to whether Khan's in the movie or not if they can keep it a secret?

Because giving a definitive answer will actually help build hype.

"Yes, Khan is in the movie" - "Cool, they're remaking that one with Ricardo Montalban. That was a great movie!"

"No, Khan isn't in the movie" - "Huh, guess they really are doing something different this time around. I, mindless drone representing the Unwashed Masses loved the last one, so this is guaranteed to be awesome!"

See, neither scenario hurts the movie, and could in the long run help it. Instead we live in this kind of world:

"Hey, it's that guy from Sherlock fighting Spock and wearing a black t-shirt. I wonder what's going on here?" - "NO! Too much is known. I might as well throw in the towel now, this movie will never sell one ticket at this rate."