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Jennifer Morrison is Pikes Number One

Captain59 said:
Starship Polaris said:
I gotta tell you - and I can't explain this - that I'm much more excited by the sudden prospect of seeing a big part of this movie revolve around Spock as part of Pike's crew alongside characters like "Number One" than I am by the idea of seeing the early years of Kirk and Spock and the TOS Gang.

Agreed!

agreed, as well! I'd LOVE this!
 
Starship Polaris said:
Cranston said:
And I still marvel at how ingenious, and just how damned elegant was the idea to make "The Cage" a glimpse into the past. From a purely practical standpoint, the decision to reuse "Cage" footage was mostly financial, but the fact that they decided to actually embrace continuity differences between "The Cage" and TOS by chalking it up to time depth was just brilliant. And by doing it this way, I think they created that "false sense of historicity" far better than they would have if they'd tried to make an "older" version of the Enterprise.

Absolutely.

As I watched "The Menagerie" last evening, though, I was struck - not for the first time - by how flimsy and implausible the envelope story about Spock kidnapping Pike is. It doesn't work on any level - logically, within the context of the rest of the TV series, or even in terms of pacing (you notice that it takes ten seconds for Spock to get Pike beamed down and hooked up with the Talosians after the briefing room doors shut behind him?). That the whole thing combined together is as good as it is, is remarkable; it could easily have been a mess.

oh yes, but what gave it so, so much more depth for me were the two journey's in the Menagerie: the physical one as the ship sped toward Talos IV, and the emotional one that Kirk took as he discovered a Spock he'd *thought* he knew. the peeling of the layers of the actual story by the Talosians (on a screen within a screen) was every bit as rich and textured AND poignant as the look on Kirk's face as he began realizing some home truths about his friend and his former, beloved captain. the tension between the two of them was marvelously done.

and it's so right that this episode came at around the end of the first season... BEFORE COTEOF. it's what makes the Menagerie, not the Cage mind you, such an adored episode of mine.
 
Starship Polaris said:
"The factors in her favor include youth and unusually strong female drives."


The howls of laughter in the movie theater last night when the Keeper delivered that line were...well, we might as well have been in a midnight "Rocky Horror" screening. :lol:

oh, at the DC movie screening? Dennis, I am going there tomorrow. At the 7th Street Regal. any chance you can give me an idea of what I can expect? what are they showing? is it good? are they showing the Menagerie in full or just parts of it and clips from various interviews, etc? I can't find a description of what to expect anywhere. I'm going with a pal who's coming BACK into the Trek fold after leaving post-TNG. so I want it to be good. :)
 
Indranee, it's a great presentation - bearing in mind that it's intended to promote the Remastered HD discs.

They show the entire "Menagerie."

First, though, there's a brief introductory piece by Roddenberry's son. Then there's a five or ten minute documentary about the whole "Remastering" project - how the film footage has been restored, how the effects were recreated and the new recording of the theme. Bits and pieces of that have been seen online before.

After the episodes, there's an advertisment for the upcoming release of the second season of the Remastered episodes which is worth watching - there are a couple of well-timed jokes involving headless/limbless balls of fuzz.

Oh, and the Regal pops corn fresh where you can see them do it. Seven bucks for a large tub.
 
I wish I could see "The Menagerie" -- it's showing on two dates in the near future at a local theatre -- but both times conflict horribly with exams for me.

That said, I really can't think of anything intelligent to say about this, save that it interests me and Jennifer Morrison is hot.
 
Babaganoosh said:
If Number One gets a name, they'd better call her Morgan Primus. :vulcan: :)
No she shouldn't. Morgan Primus and Number One aren't the same people. They're just "played" by the same actress.

That said, I didn't expect this news. I actually thought Morrison would make a good Carol Marcus, but I can see her as Number One.

Edit: Oh, I see that report has been changed. Again. I don't know what to believe anymore! :lol:
 
Starship Polaris said:
I gotta tell you - and I can't explain this - that I'm much more excited by the sudden prospect of seeing a big part of this movie revolve around Spock as part of Pike's crew alongside characters like "Number One" than I am by the idea of seeing the early years of Kirk and Spock and the TOS Gang.

Another voice of agreement on this...

"The Cage"-era has long represented (to me anyways) what TOS *should* have been.

UssGlenn said:
Starship Polaris said:
It doesn't work on any level - logically, within the context of the rest of the TV series, or even in terms of pacing (you notice that it takes ten seconds for Spock to get Pike beamed down and hooked up with the Talosians after the briefing room doors shut behind him?).

I noticed that too, you just have to assume that Kirk hung aroung the briefing room long enough for Spock to go directly to the transporter room. It would have been better to have the last scene be after Kirk changed and went to the bridge.

Bear in mind the Talosians had the ability to project their abilities from a distance--Pike need not have been on the surface of Talos to have been entered into that fantasy state where he was walking down into the structure with Vina. The Talosians probably "whisked" his mind away the instant he left the conference room. What Kirk saw on the screen was Pike and Vina's minds coming together in that state.
 
Starship Polaris said:
Indranee, it's a great presentation - bearing in mind that it's intended to promote the Remastered HD discs.

They show the entire "Menagerie."

First, though, there's a brief introductory piece by Roddenberry's son. Then there's a five or ten minute documentary about the whole "Remastering" project - how the film footage has been restored, how the effects were recreated and the new recording of the theme. Bits and pieces of that have been seen online before.

After the episodes, there's an advertisment for the upcoming release of the second season of the Remastered episodes which is worth watching - there are a couple of well-timed jokes involving headless/limbless balls of fuzz.

Oh, and the Regal pops corn fresh where you can see them do it. Seven bucks for a large tub.

them ballzoffuzz eh? thanks, Dennis! good to know. it's raining cats and dogs today but we're gonna go.
 
Jackson_Roykirk said:
Maybe she is a different, later Number One -- one who has blonde hair.
It'd be funny if all of Pike's No. 1's just ended up being the girl he was dating at the time. Might explain Spock's frustration at continually being passed over for the XO job...

"Whoops! Sorry, Spock! It appears as if I've promised the XO job to Gina for this month..."

That crippling accident to Pike wasn't a mistake. He had to be stopped. :D
 
Emh said:Morgan Primus and Number One aren't the same people. They're just "played" by the same actress.

Are you sure? I always thought Morgan was the same person as Number One. Morgan is, after all, immortal - and Scotty recognized her from his time on the Enterprise - so they easily *could* have been the same person. In fact, in at least one of the "Captain's Table" stories, they are the same.
 
Babaganoosh said:
Emh said:Morgan Primus and Number One aren't the same people. They're just "played" by the same actress.

Are you sure? I always thought Morgan was the same person as Number One. Morgan is, after all, immortal - and Scotty recognized her from his time on the Enterprise - so they easily *could* have been the same person. In fact, in at least one of the "Captain's Table" stories, they are the same.

Scotty recognized her as bearing a resemblance to Nurse Chapel; later, Captain Picard and Commander Riker thought she was a dead-ringer for Lwaxana Troi. Jury's still out on whether or not Morgan is Number One.
 
Okey i am going to bet that she is defiantly Number one in XI movie. I have been watching The House and i get cool demeanor and logical nature from her presence. I think she will be great as Number One
 
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