The sleaze of the saxamophone?I read a lot of American 'tough guy' fiction (recently finishing the Joe Kurtz series) and it occurs to me - why do so many authors have their tough guy character (be they a PI or a cop) like Jazz music?
What's the significance of it?
Don't know that I'de call it "cheap", but I agree that having the tough guy like jazz is meant to convey to the audience that the character has a certain sophistication. It also allows the character the ability to maintain an aura of "coolness".It's a cheap and easy way to indicate that a character is more sophisticated than he appears, without resorting to opera or abstract art, things that may be perceived as lessening his "though guy" aura.
I've done a lot of listening to and reading about jazz and it's history and that is the strangest list of so called "jazz slang", I've ever seen. I didn't even see the word "cat" listed under the "C" category. Weird list.Here's a neat dictionary of jazz age slang, which sounds like every detective cliche ever used in hard-boiled detective novels http://home.earthlink.net/~dlarkins/slang-pg.htm
Don't know that I'de call it "cheap", but I agree that having the tough guy like jazz is meant to convey to the audience that the character has a certain sophistication.It's a cheap and easy way to indicate that a character is more sophisticated than he appears, without resorting to opera or abstract art, things that may be perceived as lessening his "though guy" aura.
List looks OK to me for the period in question (1920s and 30s.) Wouldn't "cat" have come a bit later on, though - mid- and post-WWII, with bebop, the jump bands, and cool?I've done a lot of listening to and reading about jazz and it's history and that is the strangest list of so called "jazz slang", I've ever seen. I didn't even see the word "cat" listed under the "C" category. Weird list.Here's a neat dictionary of jazz age slang, which sounds like every detective cliche ever used in hard-boiled detective novels http://home.earthlink.net/~dlarkins/slang-pg.htm
No, "cat" was a term Louie Armstrong is generally credited with popularizing and he was huge in the '20s.List looks OK to me for the period in question (1920s and 30s.) Wouldn't "cat" have come a bit later on, though - mid- and post-WWII, with bebop, the jump bands, and cool?I've done a lot of listening to and reading about jazz and it's history and that is the strangest list of so called "jazz slang", I've ever seen. I didn't even see the word "cat" listed under the "C" category. Weird list.Here's a neat dictionary of jazz age slang, which sounds like every detective cliche ever used in hard-boiled detective novels http://home.earthlink.net/~dlarkins/slang-pg.htm
Even though jazz continued to be popular in various forms, the capitalized "Jazz Age" typically refers to the 1920s up until the onset of the Depression, and did not apply exclusively to jazz and jazz musicians but also to the surrounding scene and culture - dance, fashion, art, attitudes toward establishment and tradition. (The slang list appears to more loosely apply the term to encompass the pre-swing years of the 1930s as well, but that's more an editorial choice than anything.)No, "cat" was a term Louie Armstrong is generally credited with popularizing and he was huge in the '20s.List looks OK to me for the period in question (1920s and 30s.) Wouldn't "cat" have come a bit later on, though - mid- and post-WWII, with bebop, the jump bands, and cool?I've done a lot of listening to and reading about jazz and it's history and that is the strangest list of so called "jazz slang", I've ever seen. I didn't even see the word "cat" listed under the "C" category. Weird list.
But I do note that the list is called "Jazz Era Slang" which I suppose might mean that the slang didn't necessarily originate with jazz musicians. But if that is the case I wonder why the list wasn't just called "Popular Slang from the '20s and the '30s". Calling it Jazz Era Slang to me, implies that this slang originated with jazz music or with jazz musicians. I'm aware that I'm knitpicking.
And BTW, the period you refer to, the '40s, post WWII -- it seems to me could also be called the jazz era since the music was SO popular during those years.
I've read that Elvis Presley described his G.I. Blues co-star, the leggy dancer Juliet Prowse, as having "a body that could make a bishop stamp his foot through a stained-glass window." Well, I guess he stole the line from Raymond Chandler.This seems as good a time as any to quote those immortal words of Raymond Chandler:
"She was a blonde. A blonde to make a bishop kick a hole in a stained-glass window."
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