Slim Pickens.
Slim Pickens.
Without Jones yeah, he shakes his fist and reads corny dialogue. That's a pretty accurate discription of the character, I've just finished rewatching the original trilogy for the first time in half a decade (I find myself pretty sick of Jedi, which is a first, interestingly).Ah, but that's not what she said. Read it again.
Respectfully, that is total bollocks. Dave Prowse was a former champion bodybuilder and knew the power of a good stance and pose. The hand on the hips, the pointed finger the head fixed at an imperious angle and the imposing stature - that's all his. Sure, his voice would have been laughable as Vader (Vader is - a Wurzel?!) but Vader is all about the package - sight and sound.
What about Jonathan Harris?Jim Varney. "Know whut ah MEAN, Vern?"
Without Jones yeah, he shakes his fist and reads corny dialogue. That's a pretty accurate discription of the character.Ah, but that's not what she said. Read it again.
Prowse and Anderson are actually the most dispensable of the combination - get other ex-boxers or athletic body builders in the role and it may have worked just as well. This reminds me a little of the criticism of Hayden Christensen in the suit in RotS - okay, so his body language wasn't as good as Prowse's and it's not as imposing but he's not exactly a deal-breaker.
Without Jones yeah, he shakes his fist and reads corny dialogue. That's a pretty accurate discription of the character.Ah, but that's not what she said. Read it again.
By that rationale, when Vader first appears on the Alderaanian transport ship in the opening scenes of ANH, his menacing appearance, fearsome stride and dramatic entrance count for naught. Because JEJ hasn't yet opened his mouth. I can't agree with that - Vader gets one of the most intimidating screen entrances in history and it's all visual, not a word needs to be said.
Prowse and Anderson are actually the most dispensable of the combination - get other ex-boxers or athletic body builders in the role and it may have worked just as well. This reminds me a little of the criticism of Hayden Christensen in the suit in RotS - okay, so his body language wasn't as good as Prowse's and it's not as imposing but he's not exactly a deal-breaker.
'May have.' Operative term. And Orson Welles 'may have' been every bit as good as James Earl Jones. As you say, Christensen in ROTJ wasn't as imposing or menacing as Prowse, even though he had seen Prowse's performances and could copy them. How can anyone say that Lou Ferrigno, Arnie or whoever could have created that performance, with all those nuances and mannerisms as well as Prowse? It's total speculation.
Slim Pickens.
By that rationale, when Vader first appears on the Alderaanian transport ship in the opening scenes of ANH, his menacing appearance, fearsome stride and dramatic entrance count for naught.
Sort of the point of the thread, no?It's total speculation.
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