Jadzia or Ezri?

[Alex1939]

Jadzia, by miles. I quite like her actually.

I don't know if it was a brilliant idea to introduce a new character for one season only.

See, I feel the same way.

I do like Ezri and I'm glad she was part of STS9... but I could've lived without her being introduced. It seemed semi-cheesy to me to have to bring back Dax... really didn't like the way Ezri was introduced.

I do like the actress and she did have a great episode centered around her.

But Jadzia wins by a long shot for me, when it comes to favorite character.

 

[happydave]

The results of this poll is quite astounding. We have a regular character vs a character who was around for a season and it's odd to see it be so close when really you'd expect Jadzia to be far ahead considering how much longer she was around.

Why do we think this is? Did Jadzia really rub people up the wrong way? Are the male posters just voting on appearance?

I guess I should ask, if Ezri was introduced halfway through Season 4 so each Dax got half the show, would this vote be incredibly lopsided to Ezri?

 

[Michael]

I guess I should ask, if Ezri was introduced halfway through Season 4 so each Dax got half the show, would this vote be incredibly lopsided to Ezri?

No, I don't think it would. After all, people seem to vote for the character they liked more (or found more attractive or whatever), not the character they knew longer. Time doesn't really factor into how much I like someone. I can like someone I just know for a year more than I like someone I know for more than ten years.

 

[ria 75]

And the passing of time can have an adverse effect in the opinion you have of someone.
Some people are saying they liked Jadzia at first, but less once she fell for Worf.
Whine Ezri always had the advantage (or disadvantage, granted) of being new.

 

[arasam22]

i'd say that ezri is doing pretty well for herself here, considering she was only on the show for one season.

myself, i voted for ezri. i dunno. i liked jadzia, but i thought that ezri being so unsure of herself made it a lot easier to relate to her. you were really rooting for her to kind of pull it together... jadzia, well... she could do anything. whatever.

 

[Q_Who]

erzi

 

[Q_Who]

I mean Ezri.

 

[Thestral]

It just struck me that a Trill is like a Time Lord. LOL. That you can have the same character, but a different actor playing him or her, and it's perfectly explainable. That said, I loved both Daxes. I refuse to vote in this poll.

They're also basically the same as the Tok'ra in Stargate as they are a symbiote which is passed from person to person & joins with the host / retains knowledge / etc.

Yeah... but Tok'ra are boring.

 

[Captain Fine]

I rewatched DS9 s. 7 recently and I liked Ezri more than I did the first time. Last time I was still getting over Jadzia.

 

[Unimatrix 01]

Wow, I was shocked to see the results. I guess I overestimated the love for Jadzia. Just her aura and the way she carried herself was so graceful. I liked Ezri, but she annoyed me after about two episodes. And it actually was painful to see how lonely Sikso was without Jadzia and Ezri just didn't live up to her.

 

[Rush Limborg]

Here's some thoughts of mine (and others) from a previous thread, revised and expanded to make it more fitting for this thread:

Jadzia, seemed to act rather arrogant around anyone who tried to make advances toward her. (Bashir comes to mind, but also Worf--"You thought I wore this for you...talk about overconfidence!") The irony is, she seems to constantly make efforts to put said men in those positions (the "outfit thing" with Worf, for one, and massaging Bashir to "prepare" him for the Altonian Brain Teaser, for another).

It's almost as if she's trying to revel in her "power" over men.

Ezri has no such power-lust. In its place is an almost child-like enthusiasm and mischeviousness.

She's bubbly, perky, fun and has that girl-next-door quality which a lot of guys find attractive.

While Jadzia's sense of humor is more dry, Ezri's is more playful. Jadzia seems to emphasize her maturity--"I was young once, so I know how it feels...." Ezri acts young. She's youthfully innocent, almost to the point of being eccentric.

In regards to Ezri, it's also her attitude. Her attractiveness is understated and it's almost like she's not trying but can pull it off.

When you get down to it, Ezri seems more "unintentionaly" feminine. (i.e. She doesn't try to drive guys crazy, like Jadzia.) When Bashir (in "Exreme Measures", when he "wakes up" in the Infirmiry to see her standing next to him) says, "Ezri...you look so...beautiful....", Ezri looks stunned, and then she stares at the ground and smiles.

While she can be feminine (sometimes disturbingly so), Jadzia's more of the "tom-boy" type (for proof, just ask yourself if Ezri would be comfortable in a Klingon uniform....). While Ezri can handle combat reasonably well, her one-girl rescue mission to the Badlands showed her as kinda out of her league.

She's a lot gentler, too.

Ezri's my vote.

 

[DevilEyes]

Voted for Jadzia, though Ezri was a good character, too. But overall I think Jadzia was more a interesting and unusual character. With Ezri, I felt like I had seen similar characters quite a few times before - geeky, somewhat confused and insecure girl who nevertheless can take care of herself when push comes to shove. OTOH I can't really think of another character like Jadzia. I remember I didn't care about her at first when I started watching the show, I was more interested in people who had connection to the station's past, and Kira has always been my gal. But Jadzia grew on me, I started really enjoying her sense of humor ("Trials and Tribble-ations" and her dialogue with a Jem'Hadar in "To The Death" particulaly come to mind), open-minded views and calm, relaxed attitude that gave her her particular kind of strength. Maybe my changed feelings about Jadzia happened partly because she didn't always seem as confident in the first couple of seasons as she was later (the episode in which she met her former hosts and found out about Curzon's real feelings for her seemed like one of the turning points in Jadzia dispensing with her insecurities about herself).

 

[Too Much Fun]

But Jadzia grew on me, I started really enjoying her sense of humor ("Trials and Tribble-ations" and her dialogue with a Jem'Hadar in "To The Death" particulaly come to mind), open-minded views and calm, relaxed attitude that gave her her particular kind of strength.

It's really cool that you mentioned those two episodes and that scene in the second one, as they were the biggest influences over my becoming a huge fan of Jadzia. Her behaviour in both had a lot to do with them being two of my top 5 favourite episodes as well ("Trials and Tribble-ations" is my absolute favourite, actually).

 

[flemm]

I think Jadzia is a case where the writers never really gave the actress enough to work with. They had a similar problem with Julian, but in that case they kept throwing interesting ideas at the character, whereas with Jadzia, she ended up marrying Worf, basically.

Also, Ezri is cute as can be, so it's hard to vote against her.

When it comes to Jadzia Dax, my lingering feeling is that this character should have been more interesting than she ever turned out to be, possibly because the idea of a symbiotic lifeform never really inspired the writers the way they expected it would. With Ezri, it's clear that the writers wanted to make sure that they had something to work with, which is why they made her so ill at ease with being joined.

 

[Aurian]

Between the two I have to go with Jadzia. I found Ezri very annoying. I am usually easy with regards to changes, but Jadzias death was not welcomed.

 

[Odo You Didn't!]

There seem to be a lot of good points on both sides, a lot of which I agree with, which has made it difficult for me to choose.I loved the freshness of Ezri, and despite Jadzia being one of my preferred characters the first time I watched DS9 through, I enjoyed the idea of Worf having to interact with the next incarnation of Dax. (On a side note here, I would really have liked to see what would have happened had the new host been a man.)

Buuuuut.... the thing I wasn't so sure about with Ezri was how youthful and nervous and insecure she was. For some reason I have it in my head that when the host is joined with the symbiont they gain this feeling of calm or something... I'm sure I read this somewhere but I haven't managed to dredge anything up on Memory Alpha to support it... Could it have come from the ST Fact Files? It was donkey's years ago I had those so my memory may be skewed... Anyhoo, the point is that my mental profile of Trill (this calm poise they gain through being joined) seems not to manifest in Ezri, which means that I don't find her particularly convincing as Dax. I know that hosts have their own personalities, and I know she's new at this, I know she didn't really want it in the first place and I do like her, but Jadzia comes across as worldly and I prefer that. Also, there is nothing wrong with her head. She has lovely delicate features and is really quite beautiful.

That said, for being dry, confident (does this sound like an advert for Right Guard much?)and for plausibility of the character, I vote Jadzia.

 

[Rush Limborg]

^Well, her "unnatural" insecurity may have to do with the fact that she hadn't gone through the long process of preperation for joining (via the Symbiosis Commission, etc.)

 

[Odo You Didn't!]

^^ I know, and I agree with you completely . I just found her a teeny bit awkward to watch because of that I guess. But you do make a good point. I kind of feel reassured by Jadzia, like I'm in safe hands, whereas with Ezri I'm just waiting for something to go wrong!

 

[apenpaap]

It may also have to do with the fact that she wasn't even joined for a year when we saw her last. In the DS9 Relaunch books, she has become more like Jadzia.

 

[Rush Limborg]

^She still has her own personality, though--it's not like she's a clone.

After all, it's emphasized throughout the show that Jadzia's personality is very different from the flamboyant heck-raiser Curzon's.

But her confidence and self-esteem does build up a great deal--up to the point where, in Destiny, she becomes captain of one of the most powerful ships in the fleet!