Jack Ryan TV show, can the books happen in the present day?

[Jedi_Master]

Define "off-the-rails"...

There are two areas, one is objective and one is subjective.
Objectively the quality of his stories and writing took a nose-dive after The Bear and the Dragon, to the point that it was painful to see how ghost-written his stories were, although technically they were "co-authored."
Subjectively, his rah-rah patriotism turned....overly jingoistic although I won't belabor that point in this forum.

 

[Admiral2]

There are two areas, one is objective and one is subjective.
Objectively the quality of his stories and writing took a nose-dive after The Bear and the Dragon, to the point that it was painful to see how ghost-written his stories were, although technically they were "co-authored."

Agreed.

Subjectively, his rah-rah patriotism turned....overly jingoistic although I won't belabor that point in this forum.

Can't help you. That was what I liked most about everything he wrote. I could never see it as "overly" anything.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Define "off-the-rails"...

He tried to buy the Vikings?

That reeks of a certain level of desperation, especially at the time.

 

[Admiral2]

He tried to buy the Vikings?

That reeks of a certain level of desperation, especially at the time.

Because he tried to buy a football team? How is that desperation?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Because he tried to buy a football team? How is that desperation?

There's probably a joke in there somewhere. Most likely at the expense of the Vikings.

 

[Jedi Marso]

Decent enough show, but they've simply lifted a couple of the character names from Clancy's early novels and used them to sell the product with name recognition.

Ryan's backstory has been borrowed in part, but altered for the present time.

Admiral Greer is no longer and admiral and has been retconned into a Muslim convert. He's also an abrasive a-hole on the show.

The thing that irritates me about shows like this is that they are cashing in on different' mostly unrelated works to give it a recognizable label and try to cash in on a past fan base. This show would work equally well with new characters and no Clancy label, but obviously the suits were worried nobody would watch.

If they wanted to make a TV series about Jack Ryan as Clancy conceived and wrote him, it could have been great. Like The Americans, it could have been set in the 80's to start and they could have just run with it that way- a multi-year series showing how an obscure CIA analyst with Wall Street connections rises to the presidency of the United States. Years worth of material to mine, there. As a work of fiction, it wouldn't even have to mirror our current reality- stuff like the fizzle nuke in Denver, a second Gulf War, a mini-war against Japan, and so on- all the stuff in Clancy's books.

 

[Jedi Marso]

Finished the season and enjoyed it. I ALWAYS lust on Abbie Cornish no matter what she's in, so having her as Cathy was a big plus for me.

Will watch Season 2, in all likelihood. Aside from my gripes listed above, that was a tightly scripted 8 episodes and rarely a dull moment.

 

[valkyrie013]

Okay! Season 2 just droped this weekend, I've watched it all, So Retreading this thread instead of starting a new one.

So, Season2 Spoilers Ahead ( don't know how to make a spoiler tab, so, Be warned)

So, Still not the book, Cathy isn't even the show, though its set almost all the time in Venezula with some time in London. I had to READ most of the series since it was seemed like 1/2 or more in Spanish, so Subtiltes..
( which I watch anime so not the bigest deal for me to watch subtitles)
Some parts of Clear and Present Danger in there, They done some correction of Jack being a feild agent ( He never was in the books) with him just being there when it happend.
But all in all prety decent, I liked it better than season 1, ( sorry.. Middle east is over done now adays..)

So hopes for next season? Him married to Cathy with Sally on the way, would love a version of patriot games!!

 

[thribs]

I enjoyed season 2. I got a good laugh at the scene where’s they are bugging out of the embassy and those soldiers are very slowly taking down the flags. You’d think there would be more important things to do than that?
They did make the final bad guy reveal a tad too obvious though. I felt that could have been handled better.

 

[valkyrie013]

Was nice to see a show on Venezuela.. Not much in the news about it lately.. But still seems to be a humanitarian crisis.
Yeah they could have had a better villain. Maybe a better toadie that was a better actor.

 

[bigdaddy]

Was nice to see a show on Venezuela.. Not much in the news about it lately.. But still seems to be a humanitarian crisis.
Yeah they could have had a better villain. Maybe a better toadie that was a better actor.

And who caused the crisis? Oh yeah the USA trying to steal Venezuela's oil.

It's nice to see the CIA spend their money on propaganda bullshit like the second season of Jack Ryan is working well. The $600 million that Jeff Bezos got from the CIA was money well spent.