I was hoping if I didn't mention it, it would go away. The elephant in the room if ever there was one.
...(because he's really fat).
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...(because he's really fat).
Smith has loads of gravitas. For Tennant, I'd say "never". He just shouts a lot or gets teary-eyed. But other than that, I agree with every word you've said here. Couldn't have put it better.
Apples and oranges for me. Eleventh Hour had to introduce a new Doctor. Rose has to introduce the entire franchise. So, it's hard to compare given both needed different narrative things. But, if I were forced, I'd say Rose means more to me (cause, like the Captain said, Eccleston is the daddy), even though The Eleventh Hour was a better story.
EotW, only because I just didn't "get" The Beast Below. Smith was tops, though, as ever.
The former Gatiss versus the latter.
Angels, naturally. And I am hoping I misunderstood Shazam!'s response to this one......you like Slitheen better?
"I watched it happen.....I made it happen!"
The Long Game. I guess I just don't care enough about Rory and Amy's relationship.
Father's Day. No question.
I can appreciate the opinions of nearly every poster above. I don't necessarily agree with you nor reach the same conclusions you each do, but I don't think anyone is being especially unreasonable.
I've enjoyed NuWho ever since the McGann movie in which the first effort to give the franchise a proper budget really brought a sense of epic mythology to the tales of our favorite Timelord. And that's something Russell seems to have picked up on in his tenure: that Doctor Who is a fantastic story stuck somewhere between fairy tale and modern mythology. I ding Davies on his nonsensical scripts, but he sure did a great job making the Doctor run around and looking important. And heroic!
Moffat and Smith have toned this down somewhat. But at the same time, the scripts make a tiny bit more sense. I'm even more excited by the impression that this season's scripts all have much deeper meaning that won't become evident until later on. "Amy's Choice" bored me to tears on first viewing, but the possibility that we're looking at something related to the Valeyard fascinates me, and repeated viewings have revealed nuances to the show that have since charmed me.
Smith himself is fascinating to watch. Sometimes he's such a bumbling klutz, but the next instant he looks kind of ... cool. He's bow-legged, ugly as sin from some angles, and way too thin. But I keep getting the feel that he's an old man in a young man's body, and that just feels right for the Doctor. I just wish he'd wield the sonic screwdriver like it's a tool instead of a prop. Tennant had this mastered, but Smith never pays attention when he uses it.
Oh if only Doctor Who was hard SF written by people who understood science! But that would be a completely different show and I doubt I'd have quite as good a time with it. I'm sorry some have decided Moffat/Smith isn't as much fun for them, and I can certainly understand that. They'll have no hard feelings from me, but I intend to stick it out.
I've enjoyed NuWho ever since the McGann movie in which the first effort to give the franchise a proper budget really brought a sense of epic mythology to the tales of our favorite Timelord. And that's something Russell seems to have picked up on in his tenure: that Doctor Who is a fantastic story stuck somewhere between fairy tale and modern mythology. I ding Davies on his nonsensical scripts, but he sure did a great job making the Doctor run around and looking important. And heroic!
Moffat and Smith have toned this down somewhat. But at the same time, the scripts make a tiny bit more sense. I'm even more excited by the impression that this season's scripts all have much deeper meaning that won't become evident until later on. "Amy's Choice" bored me to tears on first viewing, but the possibility that we're looking at something related to the Valeyard fascinates me, and repeated viewings have revealed nuances to the show that have since charmed me.
Smith himself is fascinating to watch. Sometimes he's such a bumbling klutz, but the next instant he looks kind of ... cool. He's bow-legged, ugly as sin from some angles, and way too thin. But I keep getting the feel that he's an old man in a young man's body, and that just feels right for the Doctor. I just wish he'd wield the sonic screwdriver like it's a tool instead of a prop. Tennant had this mastered, but Smith never pays attention when he uses it.
Oh if only Doctor Who was hard SF written by people who understood science! But that would be a completely different show and I doubt I'd have quite as good a time with it. I'm sorry some have decided Moffat/Smith isn't as much fun for them, and I can certainly understand that. They'll have no hard feelings from me, but I intend to stick it out.
Rose vs. The Eleventh Hour - Though I don't really love Rose but it worked better as a first episode for me
The End of the World vs. The Beast Below - TBB was just crashingly dull, nice ideas but so poorly executed.
The Unquiet Dead vs. Victory of the Daleks - By a mile, VOTD was just horrible
Slitheen vs. Angels - Though I was more interested in the return of River Song than the Angels.
Dalek vs. The Vampire of Venice - Yeah I know but I don't really like Dalek stories
The Long Game vs. Amy's Choice - I wouldn't rush to go back and watch either of them though.
Father's Day vs. The Hungry Earth - I'm not a particular fan of Father's Day but was underwhelmed by Hungry Earth.
The End of the World vs. The Beast Below - TBB was just crashingly dull, nice ideas but so poorly executed.
The Unquiet Dead vs. Victory of the Daleks - By a mile, VOTD was just horrible
Slitheen vs. Angels - Though I was more interested in the return of River Song than the Angels.
Dalek vs. The Vampire of Venice - Yeah I know but I don't really like Dalek stories
The Long Game vs. Amy's Choice - I wouldn't rush to go back and watch either of them though.
Father's Day vs. The Hungry Earth - I'm not a particular fan of Father's Day but was underwhelmed by Hungry Earth.
As far as comapring episodes go, i have mixed feelings.
As for the season at the moment, yeah, Smith is great, however i loved Eccleston and Tennant both equally, but as said, when Tennant shed the Rose baggage, he was good. Its a shame that they kept bringing her up again and again in every emotional scene, as if Rose was the only companion he had ever had. They explained as the fact she was pretty much the first person he met after the Time War, but that makes no sense as reports from the guy who was looking for the Doctor had placed him in loads of places in his current Regeneration.
Still ike Smith though, but i think Moffat needs to shake up the writing crew, hell, some of the stories have been ok, maybe its the way they have been filmed, or in teh case of last weeks ep, edited out all the good bits and replaced with filler.
Meh, its all trivial.
Hopefully, but i have a feeling Corden is going to be the Peter Kay of season 5.
Shame really cos as you said, History Boys was great. Him in Gavin and Stacey, ok i suppose.
Just hope his role in Who is a good one and not a wasted opportunity for a great actor/comedian.
As for the season at the moment, yeah, Smith is great, however i loved Eccleston and Tennant both equally, but as said, when Tennant shed the Rose baggage, he was good. Its a shame that they kept bringing her up again and again in every emotional scene, as if Rose was the only companion he had ever had. They explained as the fact she was pretty much the first person he met after the Time War, but that makes no sense as reports from the guy who was looking for the Doctor had placed him in loads of places in his current Regeneration.
Still ike Smith though, but i think Moffat needs to shake up the writing crew, hell, some of the stories have been ok, maybe its the way they have been filmed, or in teh case of last weeks ep, edited out all the good bits and replaced with filler.
Meh, its all trivial.
Hopefully, but i have a feeling Corden is going to be the Peter Kay of season 5.
Shame really cos as you said, History Boys was great. Him in Gavin and Stacey, ok i suppose.
Just hope his role in Who is a good one and not a wasted opportunity for a great actor/comedian.
Hopefully, but i have a feeling Corden is going to be the Peter Kay of season 5.
I'm trying to be optamistic...maybe he'll be Cath Tate rather than Peter Kay?
You say that like it's any betterHopefully, but i have a feeling Corden is going to be the Peter Kay of season 5.
I'm trying to be optamistic...maybe he'll be Cath Tate rather than Peter Kay?
I have to say, there are times in the latest series when I'm quite tempted to discount it, especially with this Crack business erasing huge great chunks of past continuity, including stuff that was important to the plots of previous stories. I believe I've already mentioned that by erasing the Dalek invasion of Earth in The Stolen Earth/Journey's End, Donna could never have become the Doctor-Donna, as the chain of events that led to that happening never took place. And if objects and people eaten by the Cracks subsequently never exist, then Davros never existed.
Donna was a truly amazing character and tbh I can't decide between her and Rose for my favourite RTD companion. I think people espcially on here can't seperate Tate's comedy work from her Who work.
We have no hard evidence on how the crack works or what in Who's past has been wiped NOT too metion how it will play out. Moffat will not wipe out the entire history of Doctor Who and I've read 3 threads in 10 minutes and we get it you hate the crack idea despite knowing half the story like the rest of us.
Then you miss a great last 30 mins, especially last 5 minutes.
Well stop watching them? seriously, it's a bit of fun, you'd think they were gassing children live on air.
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