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I've Given Up...

From now on, whenever someone says 'gravitas' they get -100 points.

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Surely instead the alarm should go and they lose points for being obvious. For "gravitas" and "wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey".

EDIT: You know, I didn't notice the minus before the 100. I'll put on a dunce's hat and go and sit in the corner.
 
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Re the age thing I've said it before and I'll say it again. Tennant was cast too young, he didn't fit into the role for about a year. Smith on the other hand is younger yet seems much older. I find the Twilight allusions literally hilarious. Amy is young...er actually an awful lot of Doctor companions have been young/younger. Susan, Zoe, Jo, Sarah Jane, Ace, Rose, Martha....that puts that to bed I think. As for Smith... well I'm sure all those girls/women who love Twilight for it's brooding strong muscley boys are wetting themselves over the bowlegged, oddly dressed bumbling old man in a young body we have from Smith. Smith in real life might appeal, but Smith as the Doctor? I doubt it.If they were going for the Twilight crowd they'd have dressed him how he was dressed in the original promo shots all in black.

Now this doesn't mean the BBC weren't trying to skew the casting young. Moffat said when he got the original list that there were too many young actors on it for his liking, but I think anyone who imagines Smith was hired because he was young...well, lets be honest I bet there were handsomer men on offer (and he is handsome from certain angles but not from others) It's hard to imagine how anyone could have topped him in the audition process, and to me at least its clear to see why Moffat and co chose him.

Personally I think he has gravitas. Maybe not as much as Eccleston, but probably more than Tennant had in his first season.

Smith has loads of gravitas. For Tennant, I'd say "never". He just shouts a lot or gets teary-eyed. But other than that, I agree with every word you've said here. Couldn't have put it better. :techman:

Rose vs. The Eleventh Hour
Apples and oranges for me. Eleventh Hour had to introduce a new Doctor. Rose has to introduce the entire franchise. So, it's hard to compare given both needed different narrative things. But, if I were forced, I'd say Rose means more to me (cause, like the Captain said, Eccleston is the daddy), even though The Eleventh Hour was a better story.

The End of the World vs. The Beast Below
EotW, only because I just didn't "get" The Beast Below. Smith was tops, though, as ever.

The Unquiet Dead vs. Victory of the Daleks
The former Gatiss versus the latter.

Slitheen 2 parter vs Angels 2 parter
Angels, naturally. And I am hoping I misunderstood Shazam!'s response to this one......you like Slitheen better? :wtf:

Dalek vs. Vampires of Venice
"I watched it happen.....I made it happen!"

The Long Game vs Amy's Choice
The Long Game. I guess I just don't care enough about Rory and Amy's relationship.

Father's Day vs. The Hungry Earth
Father's Day. No question.
 
I can appreciate the opinions of nearly every poster above. I don't necessarily agree with you nor reach the same conclusions you each do, but I don't think anyone is being especially unreasonable.

I've enjoyed NuWho ever since the McGann movie in which the first effort to give the franchise a proper budget really brought a sense of epic mythology to the tales of our favorite Timelord. And that's something Russell seems to have picked up on in his tenure: that Doctor Who is a fantastic story stuck somewhere between fairy tale and modern mythology. I ding Davies on his nonsensical scripts, but he sure did a great job making the Doctor run around and looking important. And heroic!

Moffat and Smith have toned this down somewhat. But at the same time, the scripts make a tiny bit more sense. I'm even more excited by the impression that this season's scripts all have much deeper meaning that won't become evident until later on. "Amy's Choice" bored me to tears on first viewing, but the possibility that we're looking at something related to the Valeyard fascinates me, and repeated viewings have revealed nuances to the show that have since charmed me.

Smith himself is fascinating to watch. Sometimes he's such a bumbling klutz, but the next instant he looks kind of ... cool. He's bow-legged, ugly as sin from some angles, and way too thin. But I keep getting the feel that he's an old man in a young man's body, and that just feels right for the Doctor. I just wish he'd wield the sonic screwdriver like it's a tool instead of a prop. Tennant had this mastered, but Smith never pays attention when he uses it.

Oh if only Doctor Who was hard SF written by people who understood science! But that would be a completely different show and I doubt I'd have quite as good a time with it. I'm sorry some have decided Moffat/Smith isn't as much fun for them, and I can certainly understand that. They'll have no hard feelings from me, but I intend to stick it out.
 
Rose vs. The Eleventh Hour - Though I don't really love Rose but it worked better as a first episode for me
The End of the World vs. The Beast Below - TBB was just crashingly dull, nice ideas but so poorly executed.
The Unquiet Dead vs. Victory of the Daleks - By a mile, VOTD was just horrible
Slitheen vs. Angels - Though I was more interested in the return of River Song than the Angels.
Dalek vs. The Vampire of Venice - Yeah I know but I don't really like Dalek stories
The Long Game vs. Amy's Choice - I wouldn't rush to go back and watch either of them though.
Father's Day vs. The Hungry Earth - I'm not a particular fan of Father's Day but was underwhelmed by Hungry Earth.
 
Oh and James Corden is a good actor when his ego is under control - see The History Boys.

I'm hopeful about that episode.
 
As far as comapring episodes go, i have mixed feelings.

As for the season at the moment, yeah, Smith is great, however i loved Eccleston and Tennant both equally, but as said, when Tennant shed the Rose baggage, he was good. Its a shame that they kept bringing her up again and again in every emotional scene, as if Rose was the only companion he had ever had. They explained as the fact she was pretty much the first person he met after the Time War, but that makes no sense as reports from the guy who was looking for the Doctor had placed him in loads of places in his current Regeneration.

Still ike Smith though, but i think Moffat needs to shake up the writing crew, hell, some of the stories have been ok, maybe its the way they have been filmed, or in teh case of last weeks ep, edited out all the good bits and replaced with filler. :wtf:

Meh, its all trivial.
Oh and James Corden is a good actor when his ego is under control - see The History Boys.

I'm hopeful about that episode.

Hopefully, but i have a feeling Corden is going to be the Peter Kay of season 5. :(

Shame really cos as you said, History Boys was great. Him in Gavin and Stacey, ok i suppose.

Just hope his role in Who is a good one and not a wasted opportunity for a great actor/comedian.
 
i hope Amy is onely a 1 season companion
i havnt like her from the start, but really like Rory as he's got that groundedness and what could happen if it all goes wrong.
 
I have to say, there are times in the latest series when I'm quite tempted to discount it, especially with this Crack business erasing huge great chunks of past continuity, including stuff that was important to the plots of previous stories. I believe I've already mentioned that by erasing the Dalek invasion of Earth in The Stolen Earth/Journey's End, Donna could never have become the Doctor-Donna, as the chain of events that led to that happening never took place. And if objects and people eaten by the Cracks subsequently never exist, then Davros never existed.
 
Sigh...predictable.

For the majority of people Catherine Tate was great.

Donna was a truly amazing character and tbh I can't decide between her and Rose for my favourite RTD companion. I think people espcially on here can't seperate Tate's comedy work from her Who work.

I have to say, there are times in the latest series when I'm quite tempted to discount it, especially with this Crack business erasing huge great chunks of past continuity, including stuff that was important to the plots of previous stories. I believe I've already mentioned that by erasing the Dalek invasion of Earth in The Stolen Earth/Journey's End, Donna could never have become the Doctor-Donna, as the chain of events that led to that happening never took place. And if objects and people eaten by the Cracks subsequently never exist, then Davros never existed.

We have no hard evidence on how the crack works or what in Who's past has been wiped NOT too metion how it will play out. Moffat will not wipe out the entire history of Doctor Who and I've read 3 threads in 10 minutes and we get it you hate the crack idea despite knowing half the story like the rest of us.
 
It's not the first time I've done it, and the last times were during the RTD era, but I've just turned off 15 mins into Cold Blood. I'll be back next week, but I thought this week and Hungry Earth were poor.
 
It's not the first time I've done it, and the last times were during the RTD era, but I've just turned off 15 mins into Cold Blood. I'll be back next week, but I thought this week and Hungry Earth were poor.

Then you miss a great last 30 mins, especially last 5 minutes.
 
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