its good to see you again Jim
- Thread starter GeneHunt
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hopefully we will see some genuine nostalgia on spocks part at seeing his old friend after all those years since his death.
and Spock did call Kirk Jim in TWOK and TUC.
If so, expect Old Spock to let his emotions show and even tear up somewhat. In his timeline, Kirk has been dead for 90 or more years and Spock has heard nor seen anything from him since 2293(unless Picard told publicly-known stories about Kirk emerging from the Nexus on Veridian III to stop Dr. Soran and perform one last heroic act before actually dying). Imagine if you lost a family member or friend and got a chance in your old age to see them again through time travel or something supernatural? You'd be emotional too.
Yeah. I think if you look through TOS, he called Kirk, "Jim," fairly often. It may have been more in casual moments, when his guard was down, or when he was being very earnest with his captain. But it wasn't unusual.
Scotty was the one who called Kirk, "Jim," only once ("Mirror Mirror") in all those years on screen.
True. Sulu, Chekov and Uhura never called the captain by his first name or "Jim." Not once. It was always "Captain," "Admiral" or "sir" with them, even in very intimate and familiar settings out of uniform.
Lest we forget TSFS: "Jim. Your name is Jim."
I like the idea of Spocks emotions coming out upon seeing the young Jim Kirk for the first time in nearly 90 or so human calendar years. That would really pull at the heart strings of the fans.
Maybe thats who Old Spock is wishing a long and prosper life to, just before he either disappears into his own time frame, performs some amazing feat where he meats his maker or just simply walks away into to an adjacent room where a fat old Shatner is waiting in leathers with zippers and baby oil for a good ol' time.
Maybe thats who Old Spock is wishing a long and prosper life to, just before he either disappears into his own time frame, performs some amazing feat where he meats his maker or just simply walks away into to an adjacent room where a fat old Shatner is waiting in leathers with zippers and baby oil for a good ol' time.
The J.M. Dillard novelization of GENERATIONS featured this great scene of Spock and McCoy mourning for Kirk in a Starfleet multifaith chapel on Earth following the tragedy on the Enterprise-B. If only Nimoy and Kelley had been in the movie itself and filmed this. It would have been extremely touching for a TREK film scene...and great, memorable Deleted Scene fodder for future DVDs.
Plus, I'd imagine Old Spock to have completely come to terms with his human side, including the occasional showing of emotions.
I really don't get this. It just wasn't that unusual for Spock to call Kirk, "Jim." Not at all. If I were younger (and geekier, I've gone from geeker to geezer) I'd have found a way to count the number of times he called Kirk by his first name in TOS.
If anything in this movie, it should be young Kirk who's thrown by old Spock being familiar enough to call him by his first name.
If anything in this movie, it should be young Kirk who's thrown by old Spock being familiar enough to call him by his first name.
Living for so many years with the much more passionate and emotional Romulans probably provided him with many outlets to explore his human side and the feelings he'd trained himself to repress for so many years while still in Starfleet. And with his father now dead he no longer felt he had to remain so stoically Vulcan all the time to win the approval or even love he always sought.
We might even learn from Spock if McCoy and/or Scotty are dead by the time he travels back from the late 24th century. With De Kelley and Doohan now gone in real life maybe this would be a good moment in the franchise to finally admit that their characters also passed away(with dignity of course)in the Picard era after the last times we saw them. After all, its probably more than 20 years from Spock's point of view since "Farpoint" and 15 or more since "Relics" and McCoy was already 137 in the TNG pilot. And Scotty might have quietly passed on at the Norpin Colony or Earth in the years since he borrowed that Enterprise-D shuttle and set out on his own.
It would certainly be cool, but short of having an extended monologue from Nimoy while he's looking through a photo album I can't see how they could fit it into the movie. He can hardly wander up to young McCoy and say "140 years, not a bad total!"
