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It's at least three continuities...

Despite what the showrunners are saying, I find that I must consider STDsc as its own standalone post-modern reinterpretation of Trek. It's a headache to try to neatly reconcile everything with the Trek universe as we know it. I do find this show to be rather interesting and entertaining. But to me, it just isn't Star Trek. :shrug:

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I don't think that STD is really out of sync, narratively, with the TNGVerse. I do think that TOS is.

Do not ask about TAS. I've never heard of it and am willing to assume that it fits into the Star Wars universe somewhere.
 
I have a thought that maybe the Star Trek universe as shown in Discovery is the Prime Universe, in the sense that it's how the universe looked before some sort of temporal event alters it took look like it does in TOS. This would mean the universe we know was the reboot universe all along. I'm not too bothered by the visual reboot, but I can see them pulling this stunt as one of their non-clever, clever twists that they like to pull.
 
Especially if Michael is still in a coma after being knocked out on the Klingon beacon...
In this case do the Klingons look like this because she's only seen them once as a child and is going off this horrid memory to picture them?
Ooo maybe the whole Ash Albino thing is her brain trying to comprehend how the super evil Klingons can look just like us with a dodgy tan and facial hair? Troi could have a field day with her.
 
In this case do the Klingons look like this because she's only seen them once as a child and is going off this horrid memory to picture them?
Ooo maybe the whole Ash Albino thing is her brain trying to comprehend how the super evil Klingons can look just like us with a dodgy tan and facial hair? Troi could have a field day with her.
Exactly - in her head the Klingons are monsters. Georgiou is her mother. Sarek is her father.

We see this in the disjointed storytelling. Things just happen. It’s disjointed - kinda like a dream.
E.g. the fight in the mess hall. Why does this occur? The prisoners have no reason to hate Michael except the woman whose cousin was killed on the Europa. Why then does the only guy who knows who she is start a fight with her? Why does Landry watch it happen? Why did they take Michael to the mess hall if Lorca wanted to see her? Things just happen for no reason - a bit like a dream...

Also, the trans-galactic mind meld suggests that Sarek is acting out of character - he’s catering to what Michael wants to hear. She wants to hear some illogical nonsense about the destruction brought upon starfleet was to be expected with the “Vulcan hello” tactic (could have told her that before, Sarek...). He tells her she’s gifted, she’s brave, etc. Sarek knows she can do better. Michael then explicitly points out how this is out of character for Sarek as she says “you were never one to bolster my self esteem”. This whole exchange is in her imagination because it’s what her giant ego wants her to hear. She’s in a coma.

Troi would call her a jerk and go back to treating Barclay.
 
Exactly - in her head the Klingons are monsters. Georgiou is her mother. Sarek is her father.

We see this in the disjointed storytelling. Things just happen. It’s disjointed - kinda like a dream.

Suddenly, it all makes sense.



FULLER: "Do you know where you are?"

BURNHAM: "I'm in a dream."

FULLER: That's right, Michael. You're in a dream. Would you like to wake up from this dream?

BURNHAM: Yes. I'm terrified.

FULLER: There's nothing to be afraid of, Michael, as long as you answer my questions correctly. - Understand? -

BURNHAM: Yes.

FULLER: Good. First have you ever questioned the nature of your reality?

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FULLER: In the beginning, I imagined things would be perfectly balanced. Even had a bet with my boss, Kurtzman, to that effect. We made a hundred hopeful storylines. Of course, almost no one took us up on them. I lost the bet.

 
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Suddenly, it all makes sense.



FULLER: "Do you know where you are?"

BURNHAM: "I'm in a dream."

FULLER: That's right, Michael. You're in a dream. Would you like to wake up from this dream?

BURNHAM: Yes. I'm terrified.

FULLER: There's nothing to be afraid of, Michael, as long as you answer my questions correctly. - Understand? -

BURNHAM: Yes.

FULLER: Good. First have you ever questioned the nature of your reality?

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FULLER: In the beginning, I imagined things would be perfectly balanced. Even had a bet with my boss, Kurtzman, to that effect. We made a hundred hopeful storylines. Of course, almost no one took us up on them. I lost the bet.
Fuller: Michael, remove all emotional affect ... except that wide eye thing you do when you’re trying to convince someone of the validity of your argument - yeah, the one you stole from Joey on Friends. Ok Michael, do you think DSC is violent?

Michael: these violent delights have violent ends...
 
MOONVES: Gene's stories were engaging. For some, downright addictive. But for all of Gene's obsessing with the characters' tics and convoluted backstories, most of the Guests just want a warm body to shoot or to fuck.
 
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MOONVES: Gene's stories were engaging. For some, downright addictive. But for all of Gene's obsessing with the characters' tics and convoluted backstories, most of the Guests just want a warm body to shoot or to fuck.
You know this is all for giggles but this kind of twist (it’s all Michael’s coma dream, it’s in a future holodeck, they’re all Cylons) is just the kind of non-twist twist that DSC likes to pull... :lol:
 
You know this is all for giggles but this kind of twist (it’s all Michael’s coma dream, it’s in a future holodeck, they’re all Cylons) is just the kind of non-twist twist that DSC likes to pull... :lol:


Not really, because no one's seen this coming since the beginning.

It's the kind of thing the producers would like to fantasize that they could pull.
 
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