Spock was definitely a work in progress. The second and third episodes had Shouty Spock.Good times.
Or striking this pose (from "Mudd's Women"):

Spock was definitely a work in progress. The second and third episodes had Shouty Spock.Good times.
That’s why they say the Venus drug is not a cheat. It’s a miracle!Or striking this pose (from "Mudd's Women"):
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That’s exactly something Shatner would say. Nimoy at least had the courtesy to say it was THEIR contribution that made Star Trek the success it became.
Without him--the man who created a character that helped
Shatner didn’t contribute anything to his character development other than just applying his style of acting to the role.
That many? I know about Shatner and Koenig, and I imagine that Nichelle Nichols, Majel Barrett, and Grace Lee Whitney wore a number of wigs as their characters, but who else wore a hairpiece? I don't think I've ever seen pictures of Doohan, Kelley, or Takei with thinning hair.But Shatner's critics paint a picture in which he alone, in Hollywood, was concerned with his star status (yeah, right). And he alone was the only actor in the industry to wear a hair piece (six of the regulars on TOS wore hair pieces, that we know of). But Shatner, oh, he was the great villain of show business.![]()
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No one ever claimed ST was sold only because of his perfoemance, but there is no doubt it went a long way in giving the series the charismatic lead that was necessary to make the weekly fiction sell. That was never going to happen with any of the other actors considered to take the captain's role post-Hunter.
That is beyond historically inaccurate. Everyone--including Nimoy and Roddenberry have said time and again that Shatner brought a lot of himself--his personal perspectives, beliefs and approaches to the role which fleshed it out and made it feel like a real, distinctive character. I've read the early notes about the character who would become Kirk, and if it was executed as written, there would be no Kirk as the TV world would know him. To even suggest "Shatner didn't contribute anything..." is more of the wildly irrational hatred of the man who yes--helped sell TOS as a series.
That many? I know about Shatner and Koenig, and I imagine that Nichelle Nichols, Majel Barrett, and Grace Lee Whitney wore a number of wigs as their characters, but who else wore a hairpiece? I don't think I've ever seen pictures of Doohan, Kelley, or Takei with thinning hair.
I could be wrong, but I have this thought in the back of my mind Kelley wore a hairpiece, too.
Notice how you missed:
No one ever claimed ST was sold only because of his perfoemance, but there is no doubt it went a long way in giving the series the charismatic lead that was necessary to make the weekly fiction sell. That was never going to happen with any of the other actors considered to take the captain's role post-Hunter.
That is beyond historically inaccurate. Everyone--including Nimoy and Roddenberry have said time and again that Shatner brought a lot of himself--his personal perspectives, beliefs and approaches to the role which fleshed it out and made it feel like a real, distinctive character. I've read the early notes about the character who would become Kirk, and if it was executed as written, there would be no Kirk as the TV world would know him. To even suggest "Shatner didn't contribute anything..." is more of the wildly irrational hatred of the man who yes--helped sell TOS as a series.
I think its in "Who Mourns For Adonais" or maybe not when they have everyone else scuttle behind some rocks when the Enterprise shoots the temple. Kirk justs jumps over the rock to safety. Is that a Shatner thing? Does the director/script say go behind the rocks to the cast and Shatner decides to spectacularly jump over the rocks or is it written in the script to make Shatner look cool? I just can't imagine Pike or any of the other captains being so physical unnecessarily (except maybe Archer).
And if the writers write Shatner Kirk-Fu and and his other physical stuff is it because of Kirk being the hero or because Shatner is playing him and that's what he contributes to the character amongst other things?
There's no direction for them to take cover in the scripts I have, but there may be in revisions. Maybe that action was made up once the set was decorated.I think its in "Who Mourns For Adonais" or maybe not when they have everyone else scuttle behind some rocks when the Enterprise shoots the temple. Kirk justs jumps over the rock to safety. Is that a Shatner thing? Does the director/script say go behind the rocks to the cast and Shatner decides to spectacularly jump over the rocks or is it written in the script to make Shatner look cool? I just can't imagine Pike or any of the other captains being so physical unnecessarily (except maybe Archer).
And if the writers write Shatner Kirk-Fu and and his other physical stuff is it because of Kirk being the hero or because Shatner is playing him and that's what he contributes to the character amongst other things?
There's no direction for them to take cover in the scripts I have, but there may be in revisions. Maybe that action was made up once the set was decorated.
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Be aware that that comes from William Wyndham's recollection of his experience while filming the TOS season 2 episode "The Doomsday Machine"; and per his recollection BOTH Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner word line counting and complaining.It was no joke to Shatner when he started counting lines and made demands in their contracts that whatever the other one got, they got.
And William Shatner was also not afraid to show Kirk getting bested when it fit the story. The one that stands out to me is the bitch slap by Michael Ansara (as the Klingon Captain Kang) In the opening segment of the TOS S3 episode "Day Of The Dove":Ian Wolfe (Mr. Atoz) had a Starlog interview, and he said Shatner carefully worked out their fight scene in such a way as not to injure the older man. It was appreciated. And Shatner "had quite a bit of say" as to how his scenes were shot.
When Shatner performs flying drop kicks in "Spectre of the Gun" and "The Paradise Syndrome," it seems obvious to me that he was the one who came up with that stuff. I feel all but certain that jumping over the rock in "Who Mourns" was his idea, and he probably arranged where the other actors would scurry to, to set up that moment.
You can call it vanity, but it worked for the show. Kirk's manly but graceful, catlike athleticism played very well to young boys watching. We had a four-foot (at most) fence in our side yard when I was a kid, and I taught myself to leap over it head first and land in a "Charlie X" shoulder roll. The grass was pretty soft. I did it once to retrieve a ball, and a guy who wasn't even a fan said "That looked like Star Trek!"
Nowadays the "unnecessary shoulder roll" is a subject of parody from its over-use in shoot-em-up movies. But Shatner was perfect at that kind of "cool move" staging.
Be aware that that comes from William Wyndham's recollection of his experience while filming the TOS season 2 episode "The Doomsday Machine"; and per his recollection BOTH Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner word line counting and complaining.
Be aware that that comes from William Wyndham's recollection of his experience while filming the TOS season 2 episode "The Doomsday Machine"; and per his recollection BOTH Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner word line counting and complaining.
Doh my bad. That's what happens sometimes when you're posting from a phone with autocorrect, and you don't catch it.William Windom.
Harvey, you're a letter-of-the-law guy. You like to zero in on things with precision. If you re-check my post, you'll see that I never said Shatner got a new contract in place...
They got an understanding. And Shatner could do that because he had a lot of clout on the show. I'm not making huge, improbable claims here. I'm not asking you to believe in witchcraft or the hollow Earth theory. I'm just saying what clearly happened.
They(Shatner and Nimoy) probably weren't doing it in front of each other. While William Windom didn't have scenes with them together, if you remember the episode he had a number of scenes with William Shatner In the auxiliary control room set; and then a lot of scenes with Leonard Nimoy on the bridge of the Enterprise set.Windom wasn't in and scenes that featured both Kirk and Spock, and due to this most days Shatner and Nimoy would not have been on set at the same time, so one wonders how he became aware of this.
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