Is warp travel somehow faster in this new Trek universe?

[Jolantru]

When the ships went into warp in this movie, they seemed to go in a "hyperspace tunnel" like in Star Wars instead of just stars streaking by like what was first seen in TNG. Do you think this new Trek universe has faster warp travel than the previous one?

Whatever effect was used on the show, I think the concept is the same. There is no way to travel faster than light so essentially Warping and Hyper Space are the same thing. It's bending space/time so that you can jump from one place to another quickly.

Wheather they call it warp speed, hypers pace, or jump drive, it's pretty much the same concept.

I think it was Isaac Asimov who came up with the concept in some of his early science fiction writing, and he probably got the idea from other scientists. But I think Asimov was the first two use the concept in science fiction.

 

[ockhamsrazor]

After Kirk faints we see the bridge again Sulu saying "Engines at maximum Warp, Sir." (so this could have been the part where we "skip time")

This easily could have been in real-time, or hours, maybe tens of hours our a couple of days later. We don't know if he reports because the ship "just reached" this speed, or if Pike ordered him to do so off-screen for any other reason.

Chekov only mentions that telemetry detected the anomaly at 2200, and they received the distress call "soon later" and they will arrive at Vulcan in three minutes.

I think, at his part, nothing EXACTLY tells us how long it took to warp to Vulcan. As I said, I like to think that it took longer

But of course, what happens on-screen matters the most.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

Whatever effect was used on the show, I think the concept is the same. There is no way to travel faster than light so essentially Warping and Hyper Space are the same thing. It's bending space/time so that you can jump from one place to another quickly.

Wheather they call it warp speed, hypers pace, or jump drive, it's pretty much the same concept.

Even though it's of course still fictional, Warp (subspace physics) and Hyperspace are usually indicative of two different concepts. One finds a way to move FTL in our universe, usually by creating a bubble around the ship, accelerating to relativistic speeds. A wormhole drive also falls under this; it 'folds' the source and destination points together. The other utilizes a different universe where the distances are shorter, usually ripping a hole to that universe in order to get in or out.

The second precludes any scanning of 'normal space' when doing FTL. Though most series and movies conveniently forget that, of course.

 

[Carpe Occasio]

ripping a hole to that universe

Ripping the universe a new hole!

 

[Peter the Younger]

Whatever effect was used on the show, I think the concept is the same. There is no way to travel faster than light so essentially Warping and Hyper Space are the same thing. It's bending space/time so that you can jump from one place to another quickly.

Wheather they call it warp speed, hypers pace, or jump drive, it's pretty much the same concept.

Even though it's of course still fictional, Warp (subspace physics) and Hyperspace are usually indicative of two different concepts. One finds a way to move FTL in our universe, usually by creating a bubble around the ship or accelerating to relativistic speeds. The other utilizes a different universe where the distances are shorter, usually ripping a hole to that universe in order to get in or out.

The second precludes any scanning of 'normal space' when doing FTL. Though most series and movies conveniently forget that, of course.

That's true, but as we begin poking our little toe into how such custom spacetimes would work, it seems likely that it would at least partially isolate a ship from the outside world, even using a warp drive type of scheme. That was definitely a change I liked.

 

[Carpe Occasio]

I like Scottys comment when looking at his future equation for beaming while at warp. He mentions that it's space that's moving. I think that's why the ships just disappear when they go to warp and then just suddenly reappear when coming out of warp. The ship is standing still and suddenly space is moving around them. That's a theory of faster than light travel, that space would distort, or move around you, bringing your destination to you instead of you moving toward your destination.

I mentioned earlier about Scotty saying space was moving.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The Falcon was travelling at sub-light. It could have taken them a long time to get to Bespin once they lost the bad guys.

Hypothetically could have. Not a shred of internal evidence that it did. Certainly Han and Leia's relationship didn't evolve more than a few minutes worth.

 

[miraclefan]

Easy answer, they were going at ''ENTERPRISE'' warp 4. every body knows at that speed you can go from earth take a detor and then head straght for Qu,nos in 4 days!

 

[Overgeeked]

The resolution to this is to assume one of the following flubs in the movie.

For that sequence of scenes to not be in real time you have to assume it takes longer than a few moments to get to maximum warp. Any version of they slowed down, stopped, went back to full speed is internally inconsistent as they're running to Vulcan to help the planet. Also the delay between the other ships and Enterprise going to warp is about 25 seconds, the same as the duration between Pike ordering a hail of the armada and the response of "they're out of warp" and the Ent's arrival. They didn't slow down or stop.

For the sequence of scenes to be in real time you have to assume that the flub is in timing of the sedative McCoy gives Kirk.

Which is a more reasonable assumption: that is takes minutes to hours for the engines to reach maximum warp, or that they goofed on the timing of the sedative?

I've seen the film 4 times now. I think this sequence is real time and they flubbed the sedative. I can't buy any of the lame excuses for max warp taking minutes to hours.