Is TNG your favourite?
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That's exactly the same with me. I would only add Discovery to the fold 
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Not quite. I would say second-favorite because I grew up with the Original Series, so it's an integral part of my childhood. And the Kirk-Spock-McCoy character chemistry was second to none. Now that being said, there are many TNG episodes I enjoyed and some I thought were masterpieces (Sarek, Chain of Command, The Drumhead, etc.). But the original will always hold a unique place in my heart.
Honestly, I grew up on TOS so it will always be STAR TREK to me.
Don't get me wrong. I watched all the latter-day shows religiously, and enjoyed them all to varying degrees, but they're not burned into my brain the way TOS is.
As for my all-time favorite TV show? Oh, Lord, I have no idea. Too many different shows, obsessions, genres, spread out over fifty-plus years to pick just one.
Don't get me wrong. I watched all the latter-day shows religiously, and enjoyed them all to varying degrees, but they're not burned into my brain the way TOS is.
As for my all-time favorite TV show? Oh, Lord, I have no idea. Too many different shows, obsessions, genres, spread out over fifty-plus years to pick just one.
Yes. By a hair over TOS. Though the TOS movies are better.
Cannot wait for Picard.
Cannot wait for Picard.
No
It's nowhere near as good as it thinks it is
It's nowhere near as good as it thinks it is
Favorite Trek series? By far. Many Trek shows talk about exploration, philosophy. TNG does it, does it standing the test of time, and does it well.
I challenge you to find a better series of unique Star Trek. Q. The Borg The Ferengi. The Trills. The Cardassians. The Bajorans. They all grew out of this series.
Picard is no one in this series until he is damaged by the Borg. Worf is developed here--honor or duty? Data's growth through the end of the series. Guinan.
They did it first. They didn't warp to 1960s Earth or to Roman times. They created about 150 of the 177 episodes they did. That's enough work to have 4 series live off churning out race and planet and conundrum after conundrum; philosophy attached.
Were they all great episodes? No. But, 99% of this series was imaginative, even when bad.
Best series? My favorite is Josiah Bartlet's administration during the seven-year run of "The West Wing." Television, as a rule, sucks. Still, there are luminaries and TNG is one of them.
I challenge you to find a better series of unique Star Trek. Q. The Borg The Ferengi. The Trills. The Cardassians. The Bajorans. They all grew out of this series.
Picard is no one in this series until he is damaged by the Borg. Worf is developed here--honor or duty? Data's growth through the end of the series. Guinan.
They did it first. They didn't warp to 1960s Earth or to Roman times. They created about 150 of the 177 episodes they did. That's enough work to have 4 series live off churning out race and planet and conundrum after conundrum; philosophy attached.
Were they all great episodes? No. But, 99% of this series was imaginative, even when bad.
Best series? My favorite is Josiah Bartlet's administration during the seven-year run of "The West Wing." Television, as a rule, sucks. Still, there are luminaries and TNG is one of them.
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TNG is brilliant and deserves all the praise it gets.
Picard (Stewart) could read the back of a replicated cereal box and be entertaining. I also appreciate the episodic nature of the show (blasphemy I know) as it is so easy to just watch, it's like popcorn.
However, to me it can't touch DS9. In comparison, TNG is vanilla and safe. On some days, I even prefer Voyager.
What I do get surprised about though is the amount of people who feel TNG is now 'hard to watch' etc. To me it is one of the easiest to watch. Everything is generally upbeat and fluffy.
Picard (Stewart) could read the back of a replicated cereal box and be entertaining. I also appreciate the episodic nature of the show (blasphemy I know) as it is so easy to just watch, it's like popcorn.
However, to me it can't touch DS9. In comparison, TNG is vanilla and safe. On some days, I even prefer Voyager.
What I do get surprised about though is the amount of people who feel TNG is now 'hard to watch' etc. To me it is one of the easiest to watch. Everything is generally upbeat and fluffy.
Yes it absolutely is. Definitely my favourite Trek and TV Show without question.
So you're saying that TOS is therefor the best series?
1. Yes. It is in fact the only Trek series I truly care about. The other spin-offs and movies I only followed because they kept parts of TNG's story telling style. JJ-Trek and DIS made me finally realize, that I am not a Star Trek fan, but a fan of the way TNG told its stories (I would have been the same fan if it weren't a Star Trek branded show). It is the least cynical TV show with a concept for its stories that was both challenging for the writers, since it denied them the usual tropes for TV drama ("Roddenberry Box"), as it was challenging for the viewers, since it denied them characters and stories they were used to and did not pander to the narcissism of the viewers but reflected on them to not accept the status quo of themselves and the world around them and be better than they were. For that reason I also understand the support of DS9, since it re-introduced the usual tropes for drama: Conflict between the main characters and a war plot device, which is neither challenging for the writers nor is it challenging for the viewers - that's "business as usual" in the world of Hollywood fiction and everyone feels comfortable with that. TNG denied this to both the people behind the scenes as to the ones in front of the TV screen. That show had huge balls to do that and I have great respect for that. It is a wonder that such a show even came out of Hollywood, because everything and everyone before and after 1987 probably would not be able to do it or would simply deny to agree to such a concept, because it's too difficult to pull off and too difficult to earn your money doing such a show. No one wants to produce and write a show that unabashedly supports and promotes enlightenment and empathy, and no one wants to watch such a show. But TNG did just that. I dont think there is a TV show before and after it like it. It is truly unique.
2. It is a tie with "Frasier".
2. It is a tie with "Frasier".
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TNG does have something about it that not very many, if any, shows have. One might call it unique.
You think Maris might agree?
Some say, "The Orville" tries to go there and is a TNG clone, but actually that show is much, much closer to TOS than TNG (aside from the brighter lit sets). In TNG the true aliens were the 24th century humans (!), not the alien characters, who represented distilled 21st century humans, which "The Orville" does not do.
That's the reason for many complaining, the TNG human characters are "not relatable". Of course not: They are the "aliens" on the show, which have the least common traits with the 21st century viewer. Which in fact is very realistic, since someone from the year 1687 would find a human being from 1987 very alien too.
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TNG is definitely mt favorite Star Trek. I am working my way through DS9 season six, and by now I have realized that DS9 has zero chance of catching up to TNG. DS9 is more consistently watchable than TNG, but I remember a show for its great episodes, not its bad ones. DS9's best episodes are nowhere near TNG's best, and that's what decides the issue for me. If an album has great songs and bad songs, I simply skip the bad songs and listen to the great ones.
Now, if you're proposing a watch-through of the entire show, the gap closes significantly, but I still prefer TNG by a comfortable margin.
As for best of all time, TNG is in consideration with a handful of other shows. Hard to pick just one.
Now, if you're proposing a watch-through of the entire show, the gap closes significantly, but I still prefer TNG by a comfortable margin.
As for best of all time, TNG is in consideration with a handful of other shows. Hard to pick just one.
Same here.
Nothing in the franchise comes close to TOS, but TNG just had a few moments here and there.
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