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Is the Movie Adaption Out Yet

My view is that the book was written useing the orginal shooting script because they needed the thing done for the orginal december 08 release date. Meaning that the fall and winter redits never get into the book version of the movie

Actually the novelization wasn't commissioned until late last year. ADF's website chronicles a bit of his challenge - he wrote it, apparently, in the month of February 2009 after a screening of the film for him in January.

Rob+
 
Thanks, KingstonTrekker for the info. Ironically, the scenes I wanted to read the most was the Delta-Vega stuff. Glad to know that it's expanded a bit.
 
-When I saw the movie, I assumed that Nero transported Spock Prime to Delta Vega approx. a day before he destroyed Vulcan. Spock Prime is then seen witnessing the destruction of his home planet during his mind meld with Kirk. However, the novelization refers to Spock Prime visiting the Starfleet outpost on Delta Vega several times in the past to obtain food, supplies, etc. which indicates that he has been on the planet for some time.
I just saw the movie this morning, and I'm almost certain that Spock Prime saw the destruction of Vulcan as it happened. I'm pretty sure that was the whole reason Nero dropped him off when and where he did.
 
...the movie makes it clear that the Narada's destruction of the Klingon ships -- which would've been during Nero's escape from Rura Penthe and thus before he encountered Spock Prime -- was only a day before the attack on Vulcan.
One wonders where Spock Prime obtained the winter clothing and flare.
 
I got 'Star Trek' on Saturday, May 9th in Peterborough (Ontario, Canada) at Chapters. Only part way through it but it has been fantastic so far. I have not had a chance to go see the movie yet.
 
The movie adaptation is out in England as my local Waterstones had a couple of copies earlier.

JD what you said in your hidden/spoiler text was explained in the film and was the very reason you wrote. KinstonTrekker was just postulating the length of time Spock was on Delta Vega NOT if he saw it in real time or not! It dosn't explain why Vulcan was so large, but hey, it's just a film.
 
The movie adaptation is out in England as my local Waterstones had a couple of copies earlier.

JD what you said in your hidden/spoiler text was explained in the film and was the very reason you wrote. KinstonTrekker was just postulating the length of time Spock was on Delta Vega NOT if he saw it in real time or not! It dosn't explain why Vulcan was so large, but hey, it's just a film.

Thanks, I'll pop down and see if I can get a copy after work.
 
I just saw the movie this morning, and I'm almost certain that Spock Prime saw the destruction of Vulcan as it happened. I'm pretty sure that was the whole reason Nero dropped him off when and where he did.

Except that the way the event was shown was a gross astronomical impossibility, unless Delta Vega was somehow a moon of Vulcan. Since it was within a mind-meld sequence, however, I assume it was symbolic rather than literal.
 
I just saw the movie this morning, and I'm almost certain that Spock Prime saw the destruction of Vulcan as it happened. I'm pretty sure that was the whole reason Nero dropped him off when and where he did.

Except that the way the event was shown was a gross astronomical impossibility, unless Delta Vega was somehow a moon of Vulcan. Since it was within a mind-meld sequence, however, I assume it was symbolic rather than literal.

Thats what I chalked it upto.
 
The movie adaptation is out in England as my local Waterstones had a couple of copies earlier.

JD what you said in your hidden/spoiler text was explained in the film and was the very reason you wrote. KinstonTrekker was just postulating the length of time Spock was on Delta Vega NOT if he saw it in real time or not! It dosn't explain why Vulcan was so large, but hey, it's just a film.
Oh, my bad.:brickwall:
 
I just saw the movie this morning, and I'm almost certain that Spock Prime saw the destruction of Vulcan as it happened. I'm pretty sure that was the whole reason Nero dropped him off when and where he did.

Except that the way the event was shown was a gross astronomical impossibility, unless Delta Vega was somehow a moon of Vulcan. Since it was within a mind-meld sequence, however, I assume it was symbolic rather than literal.
But didn't Spock have a line to the effect of, "Nero stranded me here so I could watch Vulcan be destroyed"? I would love to interrupt the image from the film as a symbolic mindmeld reinterpretation, but I think the dialogue establishes it literally.
 
But didn't Spock have a line to the effect of, "Nero stranded me here so I could watch Vulcan be destroyed"? I would love to interrupt the image from the film as a symbolic mindmeld reinterpretation, but I think the dialogue establishes it literally.

In the literal reality, Nero could've left him a monitor playing a video feed from the Narada's sensors.

And I still say that if the dialogue or imagery indicates something that makes no logical sense, it's better to reinterpret it in a way that does rather than be slavishly literal. Heck, ST already has dozens of lines of dialogue and visual images that are simply impossible to take literally, either because they contradict common sense or because they contradict other parts of the Trekverse. Heck, taken literally, the interior of the TOS shuttlecraft can't fit in the exterior, and the TMP rec room and engine room entry corridor can't fit inside the ship. Some things in ST simply have to be taken figuratively, squinted at and tweaked in the mind, if the universe is to make any sense at all.
 
More powerful than any visual would HAVE to have been the 'death cry' of billions of Vulcan minds... I mean, if the Intrepid could mess with Spock from parsecs away...

Rob+
 
^Ahh, good point. He didn't have to watch with his eyes -- he would experience it mentally, no matter how far away he was.
Maybe the psionic experience was so intense that he actually hallucinated the sight of the disaster happening in the sky above him.
 
And I still say that if the dialogue or imagery indicates something that makes no logical sense, it's better to reinterpret it in a way that does rather than be slavishly literal.

Nothing about that statement seems overly dramatic or off kilter to you? Are you really saying that if you don't understand something you see, then you just deny it and imagine something different happened?

More power to you, but there's nothing indicating anything other than what we are plainly being shown, whatever speculation you have is simply a fanboy hand wave.

But one more time, What about this scene doesn't make logical sense to you again?

No offense but from over here it seems like your going to extraordinary lengths for some very arbitrary reasons.
 
I have to say, I'm disappointed that this adaptation didn't do any work to legitimize Kirk being given command of the Enterprise at the end. I actually don't think that in the movie it matters at all; they're treating Trek far more as a myth to be retold than as a sci-fi universe that has to be 100% consistent. But in a novelization, I'd think one would have the space to make an attempt at justifying some of the movie's more flagrant stretching of credibility.

I do remain curious how a cadet, however awesome, would be given command of the Federation flagship. Even if he had been promoted to Captain in some way during the crisis that had to stick, I still would expect them not to give him the Enterprise.

Christopher, William, other authors - can you think of a way to justify that? If you were to write a book taking place after this, would you just ignore it, or make an attempt to explain how something like that had occurred?
 
And I still say that if the dialogue or imagery indicates something that makes no logical sense, it's better to reinterpret it in a way that does rather than be slavishly literal.

Nothing about that statement seems overly dramatic or off kilter to you? Are you really saying that if you don't understand something you see, then you just deny it and imagine something different happened?

More power to you, but there's nothing indicating anything other than what we are plainly being shown, whatever speculation you have is simply a fanboy hand wave.

But one more time, What about this scene doesn't make logical sense to you again?

No offense but from over here it seems like your going to extraordinary lengths for some very arbitrary reasons.

simple, if Mars is destroyed right now, will you be able to see it as depicted in the movie? Hell, even if the Moon is destroyed right now, we won't be able to see it's destruction like what was depicted in the movie. In the movie, as far as I can remember, Vulcan filled a large area of the sky, the Moon from Earth is only half a degree in diameter, you can block it with your thumb.
 
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