Is The Incredibles overrated?

[Relayer1]

I didn't really like it when it first came out. Although I wasn't a huge fan of Monsters Inc., I don't really think Pixar had gone far wrong with anything until then. The Incredibles was a let down. Having seen it several times since however, it has really grown on me - I rather like it now.

Since then, for me at least, Pixar have become very hit and miss with as many poor films as good ones - Ratatouille, Cars 2, Brave and Monsters Uni all failed to impress. Monsters Uni is one of the few films I've ever purchased and turned off half way through without seeing the end. I still haven't.

The Incredibles though - underrated. At least by me...

 

[Mr Light]

The Incredibles, for me, was the climax of Pixar quality and things were pretty downhill after that. It was a perfect trilogy of Monsters, Nemo, and Incredibles.

After that? Cars? Ugh. Ratatouille? Meh.

 

[JD]

Any of you guys read the comics? I found a couple on Comixology and was curious if they were worth reading. Apparently there was a miniseries and an ongoing, but Comixology only has a collection of the mini and one other individual issue, I'm not sure if it was a standalone or part of the ongoing.

 

[Destructor]

The Incredibles, for me, was the climax of Pixar quality and things were pretty downhill after that. It was a perfect trilogy of Monsters, Nemo, and Incredibles.

After that? Cars? Ugh. Ratatouille? Meh.

Well, Up's amazing. WALL-E's amazing. Toy Story 3 is easily as good as TS1+2.

 

[Mr Light]

I do like Wall-E and Up a lot. I'm not really a Toy Story fan, but 3 was well done. But then you're back to Cars 2 And I was lukewarm on Brave. And Monsters U was just another cash-in sequel which none of the great story parallels of the original to the OPEC/gasoline crisis.

 

[KGator]

One of the best superhero films ever made (possibly *the* best in it's time) Plus, this scene is to me one of the most tense and terrifying action scenes ever put to film. It may be difficult for someone without kids of their own to fully comprehend the desperate fear that comes from seeing children in danger and a parent seemingly powerless to do anything, but it certainly scared the piss out of me!

I find it hard to reconcile the movie invoking that terror and trumpeting the kids' participation in the fighting a few scenes later. And then the last scene implies that the whole family, baby included, is ready to don masks and risk their lives fighting anytime and at a moment's notice. There's a term for that: child soldiers, and the mother is rightly appalled at the idea earlier on.

Of course, a large part of the intended audience is kids, and kids don't tend to be bothered by or even really grasp concepts of that level of consequence. So having the kids suit up, and especially again at the end, is pandering to the youngest common denominator, plain and simple.

As a kids' movie that adults can enjoy, aye, it's a pretty good flick. But when people call it "one of the best animated and/or superhero movies ever"... yeah, I call that overrating.

Yo, Professor Grim, over analyze much? You do realize this IS a cartoon and not a political treatise right?

The superhero genocide instituted by Syndrome was a bit of a shocking plot point . . . but I got over it. The Incredibles is my favorite Pixar film. One of the best animated and superhero movies ever. Nuff said!

 

[Locutus of Bored]

One of the best superhero films ever made (possibly *the* best in it's time) Plus, this scene is to me one of the most tense and terrifying action scenes ever put to film. It may be difficult for someone without kids of their own to fully comprehend the desperate fear that comes from seeing children in danger and a parent seemingly powerless to do anything, but it certainly scared the piss out of me!

I find it hard to reconcile the movie invoking that terror and trumpeting the kids' participation in the fighting a few scenes later. And then the last scene implies that the whole family, baby included, is ready to don masks and risk their lives fighting anytime and at a moment's notice. There's a term for that: child soldiers, and the mother is rightly appalled at the idea earlier on.

Of course, a large part of the intended audience is kids, and kids don't tend to be bothered by or even really grasp concepts of that level of consequence. So having the kids suit up, and especially again at the end, is pandering to the youngest common denominator, plain and simple.

As a kids' movie that adults can enjoy, aye, it's a pretty good flick. But when people call it "one of the best animated and/or superhero movies ever"... yeah, I call that overrating.

Yo, Professor Grim, over analyze much? You do realize this IS a cartoon and not a political treatise right?

He un-ironically accused a children's movie of "pandering to children" twice in this thread, so I think the answer to that is a resounding "No."

 

[Peach Wookiee]

I watch that scene with Helen trying to protect her kids in that plane... it chokes me up. I understand her terror.

 

[Joel_Kirk]

This thread reminds me why I should have already bought the Blu-ray.

 

[Christopher]

I watch that scene with Helen trying to protect her kids in that plane... it chokes me up. I understand her terror.

Yes, the "missile lock" scene is utterly wrenching. And it features probably the best single musical cue Michael Giacchino has ever written.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

I watch that scene with Helen trying to protect her kids in that plane... it chokes me up. I understand her terror.

Yes, the "missile lock" scene is utterly wrenching. And it features probably the best single musical cue Michael Giacchino has ever written.

That's one of his most powerful. He captured the panic perfectly...

 

[Joel_Kirk]

I watch that scene with Helen trying to protect her kids in that plane... it chokes me up. I understand her terror.

Yes, the "missile lock" scene is utterly wrenching. And it features probably the best single musical cue Michael Giacchino has ever written.

That's one of his most powerful. He captured the panic perfectly...

That scene was going to be even darker with the death of Helen's friend, Snog. I'm glad Brad Bird decided against that....because I actually like Snog, even though we didn't really meet him.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Yes, the "missile lock" scene is utterly wrenching. And it features probably the best single musical cue Michael Giacchino has ever written.

That's one of his most powerful. He captured the panic perfectly...

That scene was going to be even darker with the death of Helen's friend, Snog. I'm glad Brad Bird decided against that....because I actually like Snog, even though we didn't really meet him.

And it put her in charge of her own destiny. Made her far stronger, I think.
This is one of the very strongest musical cues he's ever done. I'd also add "Labor of Love" from Star Trek into the mix.

 

[Reverend]

That's one of his most powerful. He captured the panic perfectly...

That scene was going to be even darker with the death of Helen's friend, Snog. I'm glad Brad Bird decided against that....because I actually like Snog, even though we didn't really meet him.

And it put her in charge of her own destiny. Made her far stronger, I think.
This is one of the very strongest musical cues he's ever done. I'd also add "Labor of Love" from Star Trek into the mix.

It made her more directly responsible for Dash and Violet's predicament too. It made the attempts to shake all those missiles all the more desperate and heroic.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

^That's something else I love about that movie. Helen is powerful. That she was in charge of her destiny and saving her children made her amazingly strong. And she showed her daughter true strength. Violet was a teen girl who was underconfident, and then her mother showed her what strength is.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Incredibles is a fantastic movie, and never gets old. It is not overrated.

That lady on NCISwhatever reminds me of Edna Mode

 

[Christopher]

^You mean Linda Hunt? Edna was probably inspired partly by her, specifically her fashion-editor role in Robert Altman's Pret-a-Porter.

 

[Jedi_Master]

^You mean Linda Hunt? Edna was probably inspired partly by her, specifically her fashion-editor role in Robert Altman's Pret-a-Porter.

Yes, I must confess I have never watched an episode with her in it, but every time I see the commercials, I laugh, picturing Edna's power chair that zips from side to side as she previews the new Parr family hero costumes.

 

[Rowan Sjet]

I watch that scene with Helen trying to protect her kids in that plane... it chokes me up. I understand her terror.

Yes, the "missile lock" scene is utterly wrenching. And it features probably the best single musical cue Michael Giacchino has ever written.

That's one of his most powerful. He captured the panic perfectly...

I just rewatched the film for the first time in years yesterday and I still feel panicky during this scene.

 

[Tosk]

^You mean Linda Hunt? Edna was probably inspired partly by her, specifically her fashion-editor role in Robert Altman's Pret-a-Porter.

Although funnily enough, Linda looks much more like Edna now than she did in that film. Ever since she got the bob haircut and thicker frames, it's almost like she wanted to be a little more Edna-esque.