If memory serves me right, the first doctor on WNMGB was Piper. Is this movie going to have him in it, to be replaced by McCoy, or are we just suppose to not realize this little bit of information? 
Is the doctor going to be Piper or McCoy?
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There's been no mention of a doctor other than McCoy.
Am I wrong, or was the first doctor Piper? Played by the old sheriff from the Rifleman series back inthe 50's.
Was that his name "Boyce", I thought it was Piper.
But those are my thoughts. If we are getting Capt. Pike, are they going to show or even mention that the ship is going to get a new chief doctor.
But those are my thoughts. If we are getting Capt. Pike, are they going to show or even mention that the ship is going to get a new chief doctor.
Boyce was the doctor in "The Cage" (serving with Pike). Piper was in "Where No Man Has Gone Before".
In any case, it really doesn't matter which doctor they use. A ship this size could have *many* different doctors. If not for the age issue, they could theoretically have all been serving together throughout TOS' entire run.
SO I was right.
Hey, what episode does Mcoy first appear?
Hey, what episode does Mcoy first appear?
The Corbomite Maneuver (first episode filmed after WNMHGB)
The concept of this thread assumes that the film is about "the ongoing adventures of the Enterprise crew" yet, I think it's well-established just from the little tidbits that have leaked so far, the film will be set in a variety of settings and situations (and timeframes).
If your question is "will this film be set entirely on the Enterprise at or around the time of 'Where No Man Has Gone Before,' and will it therefore have the doctor we saw in that show as a leading character"... I think that the answer is a resounding "not really."
If the question is "will Leonard McCoy figure reasonably prominently into the storyline" I think that's a reasonably assured "yes."
The REAL question is... "will the role the Doctor McCoy playes be 'chief surgeon on the Enterprise' or will he be at some point in his own career, well before that posting?"
It's very shortsighted to assume that the only way these guys know each other is because they all simultaneously appeared upon the Enterprise. It's reasonably clear that both McCoy and Spock have SOME prior knowledge of Kirk before WNMHGB, based upon lines in other episodes and in particular based upon lines in TWOK.
I'm still very hopeful that the Leonard McCoy we'll see in this film is going to be BEFORE he joined Starfleet... after his painful divorce, the death of his father, and his total disillusionment with his life. I'm hoping that meeting young Lieutenant Kirk will be what convinces him to join Starfleet...
In other words, I don't expect the film to be another "weekly episode of the Enterprise crew" so much as a "who these guys are and how they came to be" story.
Of course, it's also not unreasonable to assume that some element of this film might take place at the same time as TOS (based upon the use of Chekov, Uhura, and Sulu, however small their roles may actually be), or at least in some "parallel timeline" set in that period. And if that's the case, you'd fully expect McCoy rather than Piper, OR Boyce, for those scenes.
Trust me on this... the film is not a "standard format" weekly "the enterprise goes and fights the badguy... lather rinse repeat" sort of story.
If your question is "will this film be set entirely on the Enterprise at or around the time of 'Where No Man Has Gone Before,' and will it therefore have the doctor we saw in that show as a leading character"... I think that the answer is a resounding "not really."
If the question is "will Leonard McCoy figure reasonably prominently into the storyline" I think that's a reasonably assured "yes."
The REAL question is... "will the role the Doctor McCoy playes be 'chief surgeon on the Enterprise' or will he be at some point in his own career, well before that posting?"
It's very shortsighted to assume that the only way these guys know each other is because they all simultaneously appeared upon the Enterprise. It's reasonably clear that both McCoy and Spock have SOME prior knowledge of Kirk before WNMHGB, based upon lines in other episodes and in particular based upon lines in TWOK.
I'm still very hopeful that the Leonard McCoy we'll see in this film is going to be BEFORE he joined Starfleet... after his painful divorce, the death of his father, and his total disillusionment with his life. I'm hoping that meeting young Lieutenant Kirk will be what convinces him to join Starfleet...
In other words, I don't expect the film to be another "weekly episode of the Enterprise crew" so much as a "who these guys are and how they came to be" story.
Of course, it's also not unreasonable to assume that some element of this film might take place at the same time as TOS (based upon the use of Chekov, Uhura, and Sulu, however small their roles may actually be), or at least in some "parallel timeline" set in that period. And if that's the case, you'd fully expect McCoy rather than Piper, OR Boyce, for those scenes.
Trust me on this... the film is not a "standard format" weekly "the enterprise goes and fights the badguy... lather rinse repeat" sort of story.
Nice information.
I wasn't saying you were not right, I was actually suprised that I was. It thas been many moons since I reviewed any of my old Trek tapes.....Thaat's right I said tapes....
I wasn't saying you were not right, I was actually suprised that I was. It thas been many moons since I reviewed any of my old Trek tapes.....Thaat's right I said tapes....
I dunno but I would play doctor with Billie Piper.
No, not exactly.
If part of the film takes place with Pike as captain of the Enterprise, then it's Boyce, not Piper, who would fit into what's been established.
If, at the end of the film, we see Kirk assuming command of the Enterprise we may never see who the new CMO is going to be. McCoy's participation on the film previous to that moment may show him serving in some other capacity aboard another vessel.
For all that we know about the casting, we don't know much about the scenes and events of the film.
Exactly. I think we're probably attaching titles and roles to these characters a bit prematurely. I mean, can we reasonably assume that we'll see Kirk with the rank of Captain and in command of the Enterprise? Yes. But that doesn't mean we won't see him as a cadet or a Lieutenant for fair portions of the film, either. Same goes for McCoy, or any of the other characters. Just because Leonard H. McCoy is in the film doesn't necessarily mean he'll be Leonard H. McCoy, CMO of the Enterprise.
Again, can we reasonably assume that we'll see him in that familiar capacity? Probably yes -- that is what the fanbase (and the general public, for that matter) widely recognize him as.
But all we know for now is that it is names that have been cast -- James T. Kirk, Leonard H. McCoy, Uhura, etc -- not ranks or otherwise.
Here is your doctor.
Piper was the doctor until 2265, but if we're going to see McCoy in the new movie maybe it's flashbacks to the Academy and Starfleet Medical or a brief glimpse of him after he replaces Piper on the 1701 shortly after Kirk's five year mission begins.
There's no onscreen continuity that establishes how long Piper was aboard the Enterprise. It could have been a week or two. It could have been at the same time that McCoy was. It could have been while McCoy was off on another project or mission, like Crusher and Pulaski.
The only circumstance under which having McCoy on the ship instead of Piper would violate continuity would be if they recreated scenes from "Where No Man Has Gone Before" featuring McCoy instead of Piper.
The only circumstance under which having McCoy on the ship instead of Piper would violate continuity would be if they recreated scenes from "Where No Man Has Gone Before" featuring McCoy instead of Piper.
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