Is the bridge at a funny angle?
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It looks like she did engage the thigh restraints at the 1:58 mark, but then quickly cast them off to stand up for the first hit on the ship.
My interpretation was that Saavik manually folded the armrest over to access the intraship communications or some other control. I might be mistaken also.
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edit - Thanks to @Commander Troi for posting the video.
Here's a screencap of her flipping it down to call engineering: https://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/twokhd/twokhd0066.jpg
And she flips it again for the final log entry: https://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/twokhd/twokhd0074.jpg
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Although if you compare the "hits" the ship takes during the KM scenario to those it takes later, it's obvious that the ones it takes during the former aren't real. The first few times we watch the film we perhaps think they're real because we don't have any context for what real damage will be like in this film, but they don't hold up on repeated viewings.
uh…I should have thought of aircrafts earlier, since that kind of seatbelts are STILL widely used in that sector even today.
this is something that I loved of early TNG and am annoyed they quickly abandoned: the ship didn’t shake unless it was it by something REALLY major back then.
Clearly, the idea was that the Galaxy-class starship was so big, you'd have a different experience than you had on TOS. TNG also toned down the sound of the ship's phasers and torpedoes being fired, as heard on the bridge. On TOS you heard a blast, on TNG all you heard was the electronic notification beep, like scanning a can of beets at the self-checkout.
It's not anything I've thought of in ages, but when did shoulder straps become prevalent in cars in the US and elsewhere?
The lap restraints were one of those "Hey, why didn't we think of this before?" measures introduced in TMP that were then never thought of again. (I thought Saavik used them in the Kobayashi Maru, but I may be mistaken) Until Nemesis came along like no one had ever tried anything like it.
Of course, all of those other bridges faced the front of the ship.
Boy you took me back to my childhood.
When I was six in 1966, for a summer vacation trip, my Dad bought a new '66 tan station wagon, don't remember the make or model. It only had lap belts and no shoulder straps. The front seat was for three people with three lap belts. The back seat was the same with three more lap belts and of course, in the rear compartment, no belts at all. No air conditioning and of course, no airbags.
What a deathtrap.
My Dad by himself, took seven kids on that summer vacation, six of his own kids including me and a cousin of ours. Since there was no AC, my uncle rigged a lattice work of ropes across the back window so it could be left open and keep kids from falling out.
Yes, vary, very unsafe. But that's just the way it was back then, no one in the family ever got hurt. The worst that happened was that I got car sick and threw up in that back compartment. My poor Dad.
I think it wasn't until the early '70s that we got a car with shoulder straps.
Robert
Wow, I haven't thought of this in ages. When I was *really* little, like toddler, my parents had a '68 Triumph Spitfire. They put me in the "back" - no baby seat, no actual *seat*!
Sometimes I'm amazed I survived my "parenting".
did similar trips but in the 90s…in Italy seatbelts for the backseats were not compulsory until 1995 or so, I remember when my mother had them installed, before then most cars had no seatbelts at all unless you were in the front seats.
As long as we're going off on a nostalgia tangent, when I was going to summer camp, they'd fold down the back seat of a station wagon and a dozen of us kids would sit cross-legged on the bare metal load floor. Seat belts? Hell, we didn't need no stinkin' seats!
Nobody thought it was particularly dangerous at the time. That's just how things were done.
Nobody thought it was particularly dangerous at the time. That's just how things were done.
So basically we're saying that Starfleet is a negligent parent.
So basically we're saying that Starfleet is a negligent parent.
It so is. Here let's visit this planet, fuck it up, and then bolt. Job well-done!
Alternately: Let's visit this planet, refuse to unfuck it because Prime Directive, and then bolt. Job well-done!
That's more Starfleet in the TNG era! LOL. This is the TOS forum!
My '63 Beetle has mounting points for shoulder belts in the front. It was a dealer option. I put in 3 point belts when I bought it. Of course if I get in a bad head on collision I'm getting a steering column through the chest regardless. There's a reason I don't drive it on highways.
The end of each episode is just Kirk going out for cigarettes and never coming back.
Back around 1987, after watching a rerun of "The Apple," my college chums tried to come up with what they thought would be a "realistic" Star Trek episode.Alternately: Let's visit this planet, refuse to unfuck it because Prime Directive, and then bolt. Job well-done!
Basically, the idea they came up with was that Kirk, Spock, and McCoy high-tail it back up to the Enterprise after the first redshirt death, and we spend the rest of the episode with Kirk, Spock, and McCoy brainstorming scenarios for their falsified log entries that they can get Starfleet to believe.
I highly doubt three people not facing the ship's bow is going to put much of a strain on the inertial damping field. After all, over 90%-95% of the ship's internals, which includes the bridge perimeter stations, don't face the bow.
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