Is the bridge at a funny angle?

[ZapBrannigan]

I would imagine that the people designing the exterior had their own set of priorities, such as making it look really cool and believable.

That's a fine way to put a sci-fi show together. Imagine if GR had said to Matt Jefferies, "Go design a spaceship we know nothing about. And while you're doing that, we'll build sets in a shape you know nothing about."

Once again TOS, while technically imperfect, comes out looking pretty good.

 

[1001001]

Great video, short enough whilst being incredibly informative!

He mentions that towards the end of the video - the production priority was in building filmable sets so they got finished first.
I would imagine that the people designing the exterior had their own set of priorities, such as making it look really cool and believable.

I've not seen the show either though, so I don't know how obvious the discrepancy is - from the comments on the vid it doesn't seem that bad

I have devoured every morsel of The Expanse (probably my favorite sci-if show of all time) and I’ve never noticed any discrepancy.

For whatever that’s worth.

 

[Mytran]

That's a fine way to put a sci-fi show together. Imagine if GR had said to Matt Jefferies, "Go design a spaceship we know nothing about. And while you're doing that, we'll build sets in a shape you know nothing about."

Once again TOS, while technically imperfect, comes out looking pretty good.

You've posted this in a thread literally devoted to how the Enterprise Bridge set does not appear to fit into the dome - an intentional wink I assume?
If not, then I ought to mention how the TOS sets feature a circular corridor leading into the Engine Room, a corridor which cannot naturally fit into the secondary hull (which is where the Engine Room was presumed to be during the series run)

I have devoured every morsel of The Expanse (probably my favorite sci-if show of all time) and I’ve never noticed any discrepancy.

For whatever that’s worth.

Yeah I really need to put some time aside and watch that show. Once I finish off the last 8 episodes of The Mandalorian perhaps.
Time is relative

 

[Mres_was_framed!]

If not, then I ought to mention how the TOS sets feature a circular corridor leading into the Engine Room, a corridor which cannot naturally fit into the secondary hull (which is where the Engine Room was presumed to be during the series run)

I know that nothing is perfect but I thought it was pretty well universal to ignore how much curve there was, given that it cold be different for every deck and area within a deck.

Alternatively, someone could study the lenses and angles used to make the corridor set look more or less curved in various and try to interpolate from room locations from there I think that usually shots showing people coming to and from Engineering de-emphasized the curve.

 

[blssdwlf]

You've posted this in a thread literally devoted to how the Enterprise Bridge set does not appear to fit into the dome - an intentional wink I assume?
If not, then I ought to mention how the TOS sets feature a circular corridor leading into the Engine Room, a corridor which cannot naturally fit into the secondary hull (which is where the Engine Room was presumed to be during the series run)

Yeah I really need to put some time aside and watch that show. Once I finish off the last 8 episodes of The Mandalorian perhaps.
Time is relative

Well you can get those sets to creatively fit in the Enterprise. The only real set that connects to the exterior is the flight deck. On the Rocci that seems to be the airlock but I wonder if there are scenes that clearly show that If not, maybe it does rotate 90 degrees into the ship?

But it's cool to see the Expanse set and yet sad to see that even with digital tools and not the need to wait for a physical model to be built that they could still end up with a ship that doesn't fit the set and TOS still ends up rather looking good. *Ignore the shuttle. *Ignore the shuttle

 

[fireproof78]

That's a fine way to put a sci-fi show together. Imagine if GR had said to Matt Jefferies, "Go design a spaceship we know nothing about. And while you're doing that, we'll build sets in a shape you know nothing about."

Their priorities are different.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

If not, then I ought to mention how the TOS sets feature a circular corridor leading into the Engine Room, a corridor which cannot naturally fit into the secondary hull (which is where the Engine Room was presumed to be during the series run)

Maybe in the engineering hull the artificial gravity is at right angles with the saucer.

 

[Takeru]

That's a fine way to put a sci-fi show together. Imagine if GR had said to Matt Jefferies, "Go design a spaceship we know nothing about. And while you're doing that, we'll build sets in a shape you know nothing about."

Once again TOS, while technically imperfect, comes out looking pretty good.

The Enterprise was massive, it's incredibly easy to design sets that fit somewhere into it. But as soon as they had to fit sets into clearly defined smaller spaces they ran into trouble, like with the bridge and the shuttle. So let's not act like TOS deserves praise for making the transporter room and sickbay fit into football field sized decks, that's not an achievement.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

While this is a more modern SF TV example, this BTS video explains the production realities of why a set doesn’t always fit into the model.

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My only complaint about this video is I have no idea what show he's talking about. He just says "The Rocinante" like everyone automatically knows what that is or where it's from.

 

[1001001]

My only complaint about this video is I have no idea what show he's talking about. He just says "The Rocinante" like everyone automatically knows what that is or where it's from.

All the cool kids know...

 

[fireproof78]

My only complaint about this video is I have no idea what show he's talking about. He just says "The Rocinante" like everyone automatically knows what that is or where it's from.

Right? From a digital standpoint it looks pretty cool but as far as any familiarity with the work at large that's a huge "Nope" from me.

It's a pretty looking ship.

 

[Maurice]

My only complaint about this video is I have no idea what show he's talking about. He just says "The Rocinante" like everyone automatically knows what that is or where it's from.

Everyone knows the Rocinante is the ship from Cygnus X-1 by Rush.

 

[shapeshifter]

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[David cgc]

My only complaint about this video is I have no idea what show he's talking about. He just says "The Rocinante" like everyone automatically knows what that is or where it's from.

I'm going to have to save this post for whenever I feel like a tool for doing a bunch of boilerplate table-setting for a blog post or something, like I'm expecting my mom to stumble onto it. "This is my model of the Stargate, from Stargate (1994)."

 

[Mytran]

I know that nothing is perfect but I thought it was pretty well universal to ignore how much curve there was, given that it cold be different for every deck and area within a deck.

People are free to reinterpret the onscreen visuals of course, but then the same could be said about the sets in The Expanse. Or the offset TOS Bridge

Well you can get those sets to creatively fit in the Enterprise. The only real set that connects to the exterior is the flight deck. On the Rocci that seems to be the airlock but I wonder if there are scenes that clearly show that If not, maybe it does rotate 90 degrees into the ship?

Well I did say it wouldn't fit naturally into the secondary hull
I've come up with a few different solutions myself to the conundrum, although the easiest one is not to be bound to a 947' Enterprise

Maybe in the engineering hull the artificial gravity is at right angles with the saucer.

That would just about fit the curve of the corridor, but leave zero room for the Engine Room branching off from it

 

[ZapBrannigan]

I have devoured every morsel of The Expanse (probably my favorite sci-if show of all time) and I’ve never noticed any discrepancy.

I haven't seen it, but if they filmed and edited The Expanse to disguise the way the large hatch is positioned relative to the other sets, and viewers got a plausible ship that was staged on feasible sets, then there was never any problem. That's just clever staging, and I didn't catch the video explaining that part. I would never have mocked it if that's the case.

 

[1001001]

I think it’s probably more a matter of attention.

That stuff isn’t really important to me.

Others may think differently.

 

[Commander Troi]

Not to beat a dead thread, but if anybody shells out $500 for this, it may answer the question.

"The Playmobil USS Enterprise actually has two play areas hidden inside, one of which is the ship’s bridge accessible by removing the roof of the ship’s saucer section."

https://gizmodo.com/playmobils-uss-enterprise-500-dollar-star-trek-model-tr-1848947112/slides/10

 

[DonIago]

Can the bridge be rotated?

 

[M'Sharak]

Can someone animate the bridge rotating like a carousel?

There should probably be horses and calliope music, too.