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Is Star Trek 12 going to be a "rush job"?

Yeah except "The Dark Knight Rises" has had a finished script for a while now. As far as anyone is aware right now Star Trek 2 does not ;) We also do not know any further casting yet or anything else. I'm sure they're well into pre-production right now though. I wouldn't be surprised if production started in the summer time though.
 
And while they're still not finished with the Trek script, they keep anouncing more and more projects they are involved with.
 
I wonder how this works. Just try to get your boss to allow you to have a second or even third job, andthen miss a deadline here and there. How are production companies handling producers/writers/directors that think they need to be involved in dozens of projects all at the same time instead of focusing on a few, and then they don't meet the deadlines the company has set, etc...
 
I wonder how this works. Just try to get your boss to allow you to have a second or even third job, andthen miss a deadline here and there. How are production companies handling producers/writers/directors that think they need to be involved in dozens of projects all at the same time instead of focusing on a few, and then they don't meet the deadlines the company has set, etc...

What deadlines are being missed?
 
^he doesn't understand the concept of multitasking, or the fact that most of us work on multiple projects.


I'm working on two albums and prepping a third and no deadlines are being missed and my clients are happy.

This is how it works in the real world.
 
^ You know what that's not really a fair statement. There is multitasking and then there is you know working on what you've been contractually obligated to. These other projects were announced way after and during the time the three people responsible for writing the script for Paramount were supposed to be writing the script. Some of these projects are even for other studios. I think it is a legitimate concern. Don't need to be insulting. I believe that the deadline he is referring to is the release date. This isn't a case of panicking, these are fans posting legit concerns.
 
I wonder how this works. Just try to get your boss to allow you to have a second or even third job, andthen miss a deadline here and there. How are production companies handling producers/writers/directors that think they need to be involved in dozens of projects all at the same time instead of focusing on a few, and then they don't meet the deadlines the company has set, etc...

They aren't missing any official deadlines. They might not be meeting their own expectations, but until a script is written and greenlit, nothing is finalized.
 
^ You know what that's not really a fair statement. There is multitasking and then there is you know working on what you've been contractually obligated to. These other projects were announced way after and during the time the three people responsible for writing the script for Paramount were supposed to be writing the script. Some of these projects are even for other studios. I think it is a legitimate concern. Don't need to be insulting. I believe that the deadline he is referring to is the release date. This isn't a case of panicking, these are fans posting legit concerns.
This is the same "fan" looking for something to find fault with the next film, as he did the last one.

Working on multiple projects and overlap in development isn't uncommon. Any "fan" would know this, if they bothered to do the research.
 
These other projects were announced way after and during the time the three people responsible for writing the script for Paramount were supposed to be writing the script.

"Supposed to be writing" under whose orders? The other projects that were announced also have earlier release dates or are already out. Therefore, there is no reason for them to work on Star Trek first and push off those other projects when those actually have a higher priority at that time. They actually worked on them in the order that they were required to. The timeline for a while now was that Star Trek XII's script was to be written during the winter. It's being written now and has been for a while.

Also, Bob Orci gave an explanation on TrekMovie from someone asking about their timelines, etc. That I really believe needs to be given a serious read:

http://trekmovie.com/2011/01/14/jj-...till-being-written-paramount-wants-it-in-3-d/

thanks, but lets get even more into it.

Alex and I have our deal at Dreamworks. they pay our bills, give us offices, executives, and have generally given us amazing opportunities. They are our main home for movies. So consider this… our home studio gets NOTHING out of Star Trek. Nonetheless, Spielberg not only wished us well when we went off to write it, he actually helped us convince JJ to direct it.

So when SS then comes to us and says he’d like us to produce Cowboys and Aliens for our home studio between Treks, after everything he has done for us (and for Trek), u figure we r just supposed to spit in his face?

the above is just one of a half dozen considerations that might shed light on our decision making process. one of the few i can talk about, but one of the most instructive.
Some thing that needs to be understood, especially in the entertainment business, is that things aren't always as simple and they may think until they actually get involved in it, this from someone who has been exposed to this for much of my life.

This is why I cringe when people criticize music artists for, let's say, constant re-releases of older material in some attempt to "milk the fans," when artists a lot of times may not even have control over that. Or in a much closer to home example that there was "no reason" why Abrams & Co. couldn't have built an engineering section or couldn't have done done a story that was set in the prime universe, etc. There are generally a lot of things that go on in consideration for these sorts of things that are generally not made public since they usually involve boring tedious details, legal mumbo jumbo, things that maybe aren't meant to be publicly disclosed, etc. Basically boring stuff that isn't worth the artist or whomever to dive into publicly. I'm sure it wouldn't be a good idea to include a DVD extra on the legalities between Paramount and CBS on this film and why the alternate universe was done, etc. This falls under what Orci means when he says, "the above is just one of a half dozen considerations that might shed light on our decision making process. one of the few i can talk about, but one of the most instructive."

Now I will not proclaim to speak for these guys by any means or know what's going on with them, etc, however, it might be safe to assume they aren't getting all of these opportunities because they have a reputation of being constantly late on deadlines or causing issues with the studios or the producers who bring them on. No matter what one might think of their work, they certainly don't come off (to me at least) as people who are less than cordial, professional and as accommodating as possible.

Moral of the story? Just relax. What we do know is that the script is currently being written (and the story has been worked on for quite a while now from last year I believe.) If the release date gets moved, it gets moved. It won't be the first time.
 
Again...have already stated several times that I personally am not panicked nor worried, however think it is perfectly reasonable at this point based on the little info we have been given to be "concerned". Concerned does NOT fucking mean we're panicked. Holy jeez.
 
You want to see a rush job, look at TMP ( before the director's cut ) that was a rush job, yet it turned out pretty good none the less, even with redoing the sets to go from TV series to big screen & switching FX companies mid-production what we got was nothing short of amazing.

HOWEVER, watching that film over & over through the years showed us it's flaws of being a rushed job due to the set in stone release date Paramount had given. This time there's a huge difference, this isn't a brand new from scratch film, it's a squeal and most of the stuff is just sitting in a warehouse on Paramount's lot somewhere, nothing needs to be made from scratch as far as the Enterprise goes.

Well, maybe we'll get that Non-Brewery set everyone & their grandma seems to be screaming for 'round these parts, I think it made perfect logic that the lower decks were all greasy & grimy & industrial like even if it is 200 years in the future or whatever have you.

ILM still has the big E on their computers saved in a big old file as well, not like everything was trashed after the first film was done & finished with, this isn't Rick Berman we're talking about here who saw to it that sets were trashed once filming was done on TNG, DS9, Voyager, & Enterprise.

Lord knows how much that must hit Paramount's pocket seeing as each TNG film had to rebuild the sets over & over due to this stupid practice of his, glad he's gone now.

Anyway I wouldn't worry unless we had 6 months 'till release and nothing set in stone as far as scripts go, sets go & so forth & so on, THEN and only then will I worry about it, so far we're right on schedule when it comes to modern movie making, it no longer takes 2 years to make a film, just to plan it all out, contracts, funding, legal type stuff we would find boring as all get out.

Long gone are the days were studios say "5 YEARS IN THE MAKING" on the poster, that's no longer something to be proud of, nowadays it's all about FASTER then the next guy, get it made as quickly as you can, after the long drawn out legal stuff just to cover their butts if something goes wrong in the 6 months of production.

This is why the turn around time is so short on some films, they get all that taking care of before the first film is even shot, scripted, actors assigned, ect ect ect. This isn't the case here as Paramount wanted to do this on a film by film base, granted after the HUGE success of the first that strategy might change, we'll have to wait & see.

Think of modern movie making as an automated assembly line making cars, that's why each studio can have multiple films out in the same year, if that one under-performs, it's okay as they have another that might be a break-away hit, it's all still a gamble, but it's better to gamble with a lot of films then one or two, seeing the cost of making these has gone WAY up recently.

We use to scoff at the very idea of a movie costing over just $1 mil, now the average is $100 mil per film, and we see every dime on the screen when it comes to FX & ect.
I don't see films getting cheaper to make as well, the audience's taste for 'hyper-reality' is getting higher & higher as the tech gets better & better at doing it.

On the same note the same people want the films to be made faster & faster, the whole instant gratification thingy, this is why the studios have streamlined the process, well, except the legal part, that still takes ages ;-)
 
this isn't Rick Berman we're talking about here who saw to it that sets were trashed once filming was done on TNG, DS9, Voyager, & Enterprise.

Lord knows how much that must hit Paramount's pocket seeing as each TNG film had to rebuild the sets over & over due to this stupid practice of his, glad he's gone now.

You are aware of the fact that the sets that were built for TMP were in use till the end of Voyager (repainted, refurbished and changed a lot)?
 
this isn't Rick Berman we're talking about here who saw to it that sets were trashed once filming was done on TNG, DS9, Voyager, & Enterprise.

Lord knows how much that must hit Paramount's pocket seeing as each TNG film had to rebuild the sets over & over due to this stupid practice of his, glad he's gone now.

You are aware of the fact that the sets that were built for TMP were in use till the end of Voyager (repainted, refurbished and changed a lot)?

Yes, but not the bridge, that seemed to change on every TNG film, once they blew up & crash landed the D, all bets were off on that set being the same one from film to film.

I'm sure that wasn't cheap at a time when Paramount was trying to spend less & less on each Star Trek film.
 
this isn't Rick Berman we're talking about here who saw to it that sets were trashed once filming was done on TNG, DS9, Voyager, & Enterprise.

Lord knows how much that must hit Paramount's pocket seeing as each TNG film had to rebuild the sets over & over due to this stupid practice of his, glad he's gone now.

You are aware of the fact that the sets that were built for TMP were in use till the end of Voyager (repainted, refurbished and changed a lot)?

Yes, but not the bridge, that seemed to change on every TNG film, once they blew up & crash landed the D, all bets were off on that set being the same one from film to film.

I'm sure that wasn't cheap at a time when Paramount was trying to spend less & less on each Star Trek film.

I don't get it.

First Contact Bridge
Insurrection Bridge
Nemesis Bridge

There were far more changes to the bridges in the TOS movies, LONG BEFORE Berman had anything to do with it.
 
You are aware of the fact that the sets that were built for TMP were in use till the end of Voyager (repainted, refurbished and changed a lot)?

Yes, but not the bridge, that seemed to change on every TNG film, once they blew up & crash landed the D, all bets were off on that set being the same one from film to film.

I'm sure that wasn't cheap at a time when Paramount was trying to spend less & less on each Star Trek film.

I don't get it.

First Contact Bridge
Insurrection Bridge
Nemesis Bridge

There were far more changes to the bridges in the TOS movies, LONG BEFORE Berman had anything to do with it.

Yeah, the TNG-movie bridge is always the same set; by the looks of it they even reused elements from the TFF/TUC bridge-sets.
 
Side Note: Paramount just hired a new writer to re-write the new Jack Ryan movie (tentatively titled Moscow). They still want production to start this year. It'll be interesting to see if this one can get started before Trek, but considering it doesn't have a release date yet, it will more likely be after.
 
CATWOMAN was in development for decades and clearly that extra time made all the difference! :)

As for tackling multiple projects simultaneously, that's just how things work. At this very moment, I've got four books in various stages of development. I'm revising one, working on the first draft of another, negotiating for a third, and waiting for comments on another . . . .

I imagine it's the same way in H'wood. You work on one project while finishing up the last one and pitching the next one.

If you wait until one project is completely put to bed before lining up the next couple jobs, you're not going to have a career.
 
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