Not any criticism, but people who complain about all of the new Trek episodes since Discovery started and are still here complaining about all the new episodes. I think also people who say something like "this show sucks." I gave episode 7 a 1 and spoke at length about what I didn't like about it. I wasn't attacked or told to stop watching.
Spoilers Is Picard season 2 a failure?
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Not any criticism, but people who complain about all of the new Trek episodes since Discovery started and are still here complaining about all the new episodes. I think also people who say something like "this show sucks." I gave episode 7 a 1 and spoke at length about what I didn't like about it. I wasn't attacked or told to stop watching.
I think Picard is going with the view that Maurice wanted to help but utterly fouled up things because he didn't want to seek help, which is a Star Trek way of looking at things that he wasn't evil but wrong. The thing is that plenty of mentally ill people receive this kind of "help" in RL and its not remotely something we look at kindly.
I’ve been enthusiastic about new Trek sometimes and when I point out something isn’t that good I’ve been told multiple times how I’m just being negative and need to stop watching.
If something isn't enjoyable I will recommend to anyone to stop watching.
Life is too short and Trek doesn't get second chances.
Not a matter of negativity but a strong desire for people to be watching something they enjoy.
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Also, I don't believe in "Bad Trek is better than No Trek." I find that opinion to strange to consider. If it's bad it's bad and not worth my time.
Life is too short and Trek doesn't get second chances.
Not a matter of negativity but a strong desire for people to be watching something they enjoy.
ETA: Grammar clarification.
Also, I don't believe in "Bad Trek is better than No Trek." I find that opinion to strange to consider. If it's bad it's bad and not worth my time.
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I don’t understand hate watching. FOMO is a thing and I get that but there comes a point where I think you have to ask yourself, “If I dislike something this much, am I really missing out on anything?” I’ve generally enjoyed myself this season but even I admit there are some pretty big flaws here. But Star Trek is rarely perfect.
For you perhaps. This could be an amazing finale that gets me as excited to see next season as "The Star Gazer" did for this season. I'm not expecting that, but I'm curious to see how much, if anything, can be salvaged from this season.
I agree with you. You like what you like, you feel how you feel, and if others disagree, that's on them. If a question is asked and you answer it, you should be able to do so how you want. If you go in depth with why you feel that way, cool. If you don't, also cool. And if someone asks you for elaboration, it's your right to determine whether to answer the question (s) or not.
There's been discussion and debate in the media and on the Internet about the side of fandom that tears everything down, sometimes for retrograde reasons (which I have no problem with those views being exposed). However, there's another side to fandom, that of people who relentlessly have to like something, and question and sometimes IMO pester people who don't like said franchise, episode, or so forth. It's like the other side of the coin in policing (or attempting to) how we should think or feel about a particular genre offering.
Honestly, all I want is a reason, or rational, behind a particular emotion. Saying "I hate it" is sufficient if it's a blog post. But, when Trek fans talk about wanting discussing and thought provoking content then I really feel it is appropriate to ask questions as to the reasons behind feelings, even if they can't be fully articulated in the moment (something I'm fully guilty of).
That said, if it's "I don't like it and that's fine" then I'll respect that. But, that's not going to stop me from questioning the reasons behind things, especially considering to watch something being stated repeatedly to not being creating enjoyment.
This isn't meant to gatekeep and I apologize if it comes across that way. I care very little for content in TV shows and far more about the perspectives from other humans.
That said, if it's "I don't like it and that's fine" then I'll respect that. But, that's not going to stop me from questioning the reasons behind things, especially considering to watch something being stated repeatedly to not being creating enjoyment.
This isn't meant to gatekeep and I apologize if it comes across that way. I care very little for content in TV shows and far more about the perspectives from other humans.
Not at all. We just wanted it to be good storytelling. As I said in another post there is some good stuff in Picard. But not enough to make it a homerun. Its mediocre at best. Stewart deserved better. So much potential and not realized. Oh well. Whats done is done. Maybe season 3 will be better.
That's fine.
Why? The man has a long and storied career, and is beloved by many. He deserves nothing. He has earned his place in history already.
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Also Stewart can influence the shows content, he is the star, without him there is no show.
Stewart deserves better? Stewart is getting what he believes he deserves, and it was not going to be TNG 2.
He doesn't deserve anything.That doesnt mean he deserves to go with crap scripts...
He got what he wanted: complete creative control and a chance to explore Picard as well as social issues that concerned him.
Picard the action hero and dune buggy driver resulted from Stewart’s creative input/control.
This gothic horror Jane Eyre Freudian shite show that never came up in 7 years of shows and 4 flicks including the Nexus where all his dreams could come true? If this is his creative input to explain why PIC is standoffish and didn’t fall crazily in love with his Romulan house servant … he should stick to acting,
This gothic horror Jane Eyre Freudian shite show that never came up in 7 years of shows and 4 flicks including the Nexus where all his dreams could come true? If this is his creative input to explain why PIC is standoffish and didn’t fall crazily in love with his Romulan house servant … he should stick to acting,
Season 2's biggest problem for me is the fact that Season 1 created a really fascinating new status quo for the 25th century and a lot of interesting politics as well as problems needing to be dealt with. All of which get thrown to the side in order to do the wacky-wacky hijinks of 2024.
That wasn't interesting enough...
I feel that's an odd thing to bring up when you're trying to cheer someone up.
Patrick Stewart "invited" Whoopi Goldberg to Picard season 2, in the name of Alex Kurtzman, on Jan 22, 2020 (this was one day before Picard S01E01 aired).
This was a PR event, you don't just "invite" some to a show.
You only do that after contract negations and a contract is signed.
And before that, you need a plot outline.
We are talking about way into 2019 here when everything we see today in season 2 was first put on paper.
It's a shame she couldn't be the entirety of the Guinan role.
No shade on the current actress but Whoopi is irreplaceable.
No shade on the current actress but Whoopi is irreplaceable.
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