Poll Is Michael Burnham a "Mary Sue"?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Skipper, Mar 17, 2019.

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Is Michael Burnham a "Mary Sue" character?

  1. Yes

    5 vote(s)
    5.4%
  2. No

    87 vote(s)
    94.6%
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  1. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The character is played by the person whose names heads the casting list, how often did you watch TOS without no mention of Kirk, Spock or McCoy in the episode? Those three headed a landing party almost 99% of the friggin time! An universe stupid decision but a real life entertaining one. (sometimes).
     
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  2. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    No he didn't.
     
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  3. Dinosaur Enabler

    Dinosaur Enabler Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    Would "held her in high esteem" be better? She's a badly conceived character. It would have been the same thing if she'd been male. That's the point. She's a fanfiction trope, which makes me think of her as a Mary Sue vs. just another hyper-competent character. I realize many fans feel differently, and that's okay.
     
  4. Crazyewok

    Crazyewok Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Wow

    I must have been living under a big rock I guess :shrug:
     
  5. Vger23

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    Sometimes I go into threads and within 3-4 minutes, I realize how stupid I was.
     
  6. eschaton

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    While I don't think Burnham is a Mary Sue, just saying that the term refers to fanfic characters, not canon ones, doesn't end the argument. After all, fanwank started out as a fanfic concept (it's right in the name) but is now pejoratively (and in some cases lovingly) used for canon works (particularly some of Manny Coto's decisions in the last season of Enterprise).
     
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  7. Crazyewok

    Crazyewok Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Hey....nothing wrong with a little fanwank...in moderation :hugegrin:
     
  8. Dinosaur Enabler

    Dinosaur Enabler Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    I get that, but Burnham is basically a fanfic character transplanted into canon. Which makes her special and therefore in need of special terminology...and yes, I do appreciate the irony in that statement.
     
  9. Crazyewok

    Crazyewok Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Maybe we should invent a new term for a fankwanky character with a rod up his or her arse? A Michael burnham? Its gender neutral so would work on both sexes!
     
  10. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    No she isn't.
     
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  11. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Fleet Captain

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    A Picard? Seriously, when it comes to a rod up his/her arse, she's not even in his league.
     
  12. Vger23

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    Picard did it first, so that's my vote.
     
  13. Dinosaur Enabler

    Dinosaur Enabler Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    Yes she is.
     
  14. Crazyewok

    Crazyewok Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Yeah but old pickles was a captain so he has a excuse to have a rod up his arse.
     
  15. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The majority would disagree with you.
     
  16. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Fleet Captain

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    Actually, according to canon, it was long before he was captain when he pulled that rod out of his chest and proceeded to stick it up his ass.

    Also, what was Worf's excuse then?
     
  17. Dinosaur Enabler

    Dinosaur Enabler Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    So? Since when did that
    Come on, really?
     
  18. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    How many ways are there to say NO in the world?

    If I knew the number, that plus ∞, would be how many NO's this silly thread needs.
    :rolleyes:
     
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  19. SolarisOne

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    People, unless they're antagonists, love Mary Sues no matter how they behave. I seem to remember several people holding grudges against Burnham at one point or another when she did something stupid and/or selfish. Just saying.
     
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  20. Lord Garth

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    At least it's all contained in one thread we'll be able to point to in the future.
     
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