Is Lady Gaga a hero?

[Nerys Myk]

Then again, in these days, are there any flawless role models?

There is one, yes. "My boss is a Jewish carpenter."

I heard he had anger issues.

 

[Amaris]

Then again, in these days, are there any flawless role models?

There is one, yes. "My boss is a Jewish carpenter."

I heard he had anger issues.

Eh. Everyone has their cross to bear.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Then again, in these days, are there any flawless role models?

There is one, yes. "My boss is a Jewish carpenter."

Don't you think he was kinda abusing his powers when he brought Lazarus back to life and not every other person who's died ever?

 

[wamdue]

Is Lady Gaga a hero?

only if they changed the defention of hero, whilst I was asleep.

 

[Sci]

Then again, in these days, are there any flawless role models?

There is one, yes. "My boss is a Jewish carpenter."

Don't you think he was kinda abusing his powers when he brought Lazarus back to life and not every other person who's died ever?

Or when he violently attacked non-violent merchants in the Temple -- in violation of his own "turn the other cheek" teachings?

Or, for that matter, when he decided to condemn billions of innocent people to eternal torture for the sin of not telepathically notifying them that they now consider him their master, when he supposedly loves them?

Speaking a bit less blasphemously, even traditional Christianity doesn't regard Jesus as perfect. Without sin, yes, but not perfect -- even Jesus was tempted in the Garden of Gethsemane and asked God to let this cup pass. He did the right thing in the end, but even in traditional Christian interpretations, Jesus is not flawless.

 

[exodus]

What does one have to do with the other? Is Ira Hayes not a hero because he was an alchoholic?

Ira Hayes doesn't have a pre-teen or teenage fan club.
How do you even compare a soldier of war to a musical pop star?

I would think hundreds of parents would take issue with their kids admiring someone with a admitted drug habit and referring to her as a hero. I would think that's easy to figure out without asking the question how does it relate.

I didn't equate/compare the two. I asked do past, present or future "trangressions" somehow negate an act of heroism. If a self admitted drug addict saved the lives of several people, are they not a hero? Does one cancel out the other?

You asked: "What does one have to do with the other?".
That's called comparing.
Your question and example of "transgressions" doesn't even relate to the topic at hand of Lady Gaga being a hero as a role model. I very much doubt anyone would see a drug addict that saved the lives of several people as a role model.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Ira Hayes doesn't have a pre-teen or teenage fan club.
How do you even compare a soldier of war to a musical pop star?

I would think hundreds of parents would take issue with their kids admiring someone with a admitted drug habit and referring to her as a hero. I would think that's easy to figure out without asking the question how does it relate.

I didn't equate/compare the two. I asked do past, present or future "trangressions" somehow negate an act of heroism. If a self admitted drug addict saved the lives of several people, are they not a hero? Does one cancel out the other?

You asked: "What does one have to do with the other?".
That's called comparing.
Your question and example of "transgressions" doesn't even relate to the topic at hand of Lady Gaga being a hero as a role model.

Your implication was that since Gaga was/is abusing cocaine she could not be a hero. ( and I'm not saying she is one currently, IMO). I just wanted to know why substance abuse prevents a person from consideration for heroic status.

So again I ask: What does one (being a hero) have to do with the other (substance abuse)? Seems simple enough.

 

[exodus]

I didn't equate/compare the two. I asked do past, present or future "trangressions" somehow negate an act of heroism. If a self admitted drug addict saved the lives of several people, are they not a hero? Does one cancel out the other?

You asked: "What does one have to do with the other?".
That's called comparing.
Your question and example of "transgressions" doesn't even relate to the topic at hand of Lady Gaga being a hero as a role model.

Your implication was that since Gaga was/is abusing cocaine she could not be a hero.

You need to reread what I wrote.

I didn't say anything about she couldn't be a hero.
I asked those posting here in their opinion if her admitting that she does cocaine, would they still regard her as a hero.
I left the answer to that question up to each poster.
I myself never gave my own opinion on the situation or any implication there of.
Besides, I already answered your question(twice now) in regards to parents not wanting their children admiring someone with a drug problem. Parents didn't even want their children watching Pee-Wee's Playhouse after Paul Ruben's was caught masturbating in an adult theater. It relates because we're talking about a pop star with pre-teens as her fan base. If pre-teens regard her as a role model && hero, then it's very possable many of them will mimic everything she does.

 

[milatchi]

What do you think of Lady Gaga? Is she a hero? Does she have enough talent to last a long time, or is she a flash in the pan?

I think she is just a flash in the pan, but I've been wrong before. I am not really an authority on the latest trends in pop music.

 

[Itisnotlogical]

It seems to me that she's the kind of star who has so little talent she has to get nakey on the cover of every magazine she can just to preserve her popularity. I don't know much about any rights she might be fighting for, but for God's sakes she can at least wear some pants and a t-shirt while she does so.

 

[Amaris]

It seems to me that she's the kind of star who has so little talent she has to get nakey on the cover of every magazine she can just to preserve her popularity. I don't know much about any rights she might be fighting for, but for God's sakes she can at least wear some pants and a t-shirt while she does so.

You don't have to like it, but no.

 

[Professor Zoom]

It seems to me that she's the kind of star who has so little talent she has to get nakey on the cover of every magazine she can just to preserve her popularity. I don't know much about any rights she might be fighting for, but for God's sakes she can at least wear some pants and a t-shirt while she does so.

You don't have to like it, but no.

I feel like people who say she has no talent and that she should put some clothes on either 1) just don't like the KIND of music she does or 2.) Don't believe she writes and plays her own music or 3) are so put off by her sexuality (yes, in your face) don't give her a chance.

My wife HATES Lady Gaga...unless she doesn't know it's her when the song is on. Then she loves her. Until she finds out it's Lady Gaga's song she's enjoying, then she hates her again.

 

[Itisnotlogical]

It seems to me that she's the kind of star who has so little talent she has to get nakey on the cover of every magazine she can just to preserve her popularity. I don't know much about any rights she might be fighting for, but for God's sakes she can at least wear some pants and a t-shirt while she does so.

You don't have to like it, but no.

I feel like people who say she has no talent and that she should put some clothes on either 1) just don't like the KIND of music she does or 2.) Don't believe she writes and plays her own music or 3) are so put off by her sexuality (yes, in your face) don't give her a chance.

My wife HATES Lady Gaga...unless she doesn't know it's her when the song is on. Then she loves her. Until she finds out it's Lady Gaga's song she's enjoying, then she hates her again.

Believe it or not, I actually do not like her music! I do enjoy pop, techno and all that, but she actually isn't that good. Just IMO. And yes, I am "put off" by her sexuality as you put it. To me it seems like less of a statement than just a gimmick to convince male listeners to spend their money on her albums and shows and whatnot.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

You don't have to like it, but no.

I feel like people who say she has no talent and that she should put some clothes on either 1) just don't like the KIND of music she does or 2.) Don't believe she writes and plays her own music or 3) are so put off by her sexuality (yes, in your face) don't give her a chance.

My wife HATES Lady Gaga...unless she doesn't know it's her when the song is on. Then she loves her. Until she finds out it's Lady Gaga's song she's enjoying, then she hates her again.

Believe it or not, I actually do not like her music! I do enjoy pop, techno and all that, but she actually isn't that good. Just IMO. And yes, I am "put off" by her sexuality as you put it. To me it seems like less of a statement than just a gimmick to convince male listeners to spend their money on her albums and shows and whatnot.

I hate to break it to you, but just because you don't like her music doesn't mean it isn't any good. I realize that may be a tough pill to swallow. People often confuse their personal tastes with some objective measure of quality.

 

[Itisnotlogical]

^^

... Okay, you got me there. Just like a real person, I made a mistake.

But I still think she should put some pants on the next time she gets in front of a camera.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

It seems to me that she's the kind of star who has so little talent she has to get nakey on the cover of every magazine she can just to preserve her popularity. I don't know much about any rights she might be fighting for, but for God's sakes she can at least wear some pants and a t-shirt while she does so.

If you saw the youtube video earlier of her playing piano before she was Lady Gaga, I think it's quite clear she does have talent. That being said, while not quite naked (which, btw, is spelled with a d, not a y), it does seem that she does have to act that way to become popular in the first place. Basically, in the pop scene, there are so many acts that talented acts have to do things to get noticed too (I have zero faith that talent rises to the top in the music industry. It's just that, every so often, we're lucky to actually have a talented artist get noticed). And there's no market for the sappy piano route (unless you're Chris Martin). "Lady Gaga" is her act and her public life. She's embraced a style that makes her clearly stand out. And I don't think she does it simply for sex appeal because, to be perfectly honest, she isn't quite as conventionally attractive as other pop stars. She offers more uniqueness than sexiness when she dresses the way she does.

 

[exodus]

It seems to me that she's the kind of star who has so little talent she has to get nakey on the cover of every magazine she can just to preserve her popularity. I don't know much about any rights she might be fighting for, but for God's sakes she can at least wear some pants and a t-shirt while she does so.

It didn't hinder the careers of two of her biggest inspirations, Madonna & Grace Jones.
Grace Jones like Gaga is a performance artist. Nudity is often(but not always) a component of performance art, that's part of why it's remained underground for so long. Gaga like Jones and Marilyn Manson brought that art form into the main stream successfully. IMO that's another sign of proof of their talent.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

she isn't quite as conventionally attractive as other pop stars.

I don't think she's attractive at all.

At least not now. That early shot with just her at the piano, she did look kind of cute then. But then again, pop stars don't dare look "cute", do they?

 

[Nerys Myk]

You asked: "What does one have to do with the other?".
That's called comparing.
Your question and example of "transgressions" doesn't even relate to the topic at hand of Lady Gaga being a hero as a role model.

Your implication was that since Gaga was/is abusing cocaine she could not be a hero.

You need to reread what I wrote.

I didn't say anything about she couldn't be a hero.
I asked those posting here in their opinion if her admitting that she does cocaine, would they still regard her as a hero.
I left the answer to that question up to each poster.
I myself never gave my own opinion on the situation or any implication there of.
Besides, I already answered your question(twice now) in regards to parents not wanting their children admiring someone with a drug problem. Parents didn't even want their children watching Pee-Wee's Playhouse after Paul Ruben's was caught masturbating in an adult theater. It relates because we're talking about a pop star with pre-teens as her fan base. If pre-teens regard her as a role model && hero, then it's very possable many of them will mimic everything she does.

My question isn't about parents' opinions or the behavior of Kids celebrities. It's about heroes and heroism. Is a heroic act negated by unrelated "bad behavior"? Its a general question, prompted by your query.

Is Gaga's fan base mostly preteens? I really don't know, myself.

 

[exodus]

Your implication was that since Gaga was/is abusing cocaine she could not be a hero.

You need to reread what I wrote.

I didn't say anything about she couldn't be a hero.
I asked those posting here in their opinion if her admitting that she does cocaine, would they still regard her as a hero.
I left the answer to that question up to each poster.
I myself never gave my own opinion on the situation or any implication there of.
Besides, I already answered your question(twice now) in regards to parents not wanting their children admiring someone with a drug problem. Parents didn't even want their children watching Pee-Wee's Playhouse after Paul Ruben's was caught masturbating in an adult theater. It relates because we're talking about a pop star with pre-teens as her fan base. If pre-teens regard her as a role model && hero, then it's very possable many of them will mimic everything she does.

My question isn't about parents' opinions or the behavior of Kids celebrities. It's about heroes and heroism. Is a heroic act negated by unrelated "bad behavior"? Its a general question, prompted by your query.

What does this have to do with Lady Gaga?

The general answer is up to each individual and how they view the act of heroism and the person involved.
For me, someone with as drug habit(depending on the drug) shouldn't be considered a role model.
However, depending on the situation and act it's possable I might consider them a hero.
YMMV.