There's no denying that tonally Seasons 1 and 5 are polar opposites.
Is it worth watching Disc?
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You don't get that long to hook me. Hell, sometimes I'll drop out of a show, after 15 minutes.
For me - the show was a low point in Trek for me. I think this is the first Trek that I have no interest in rewatching. I finish it just because I don't think it would have been fair to judge a show I half-finished. Plus, I started to enjoy it more when they got out of the 23rd century. If the show had started centuries in the future, I would not have cared about the incongruent look in technology, aliens, uniform, etc. I'd still have some issues with it, but not nearly as many.
But to answer your question - try it. You might like it. It certainly modernized Trek in many ways. What do you have to lose (outside of a few hours)?
But to answer your question - try it. You might like it. It certainly modernized Trek in many ways. What do you have to lose (outside of a few hours)?
That is true.
As much as I generally dislike Discovery, it's in absolutely every way superior to She-Hulk and Acolyte.
Among my biggest gripes of Discovery is just being bad Star Trek. Take that out of the equation and it's more of a underwhelming, generally poorly written genetic sci-fi show with some good characters who are unfortunately consistently overshadowed by one particularly bad one.
But... Discovery is watchable.
I can't say the same for She-Hulk or Acolyte. I did manage to finish She-Hulk... I got three episodes into Acolyte before hanging it up.
For this TOS fan - The first two seasons (especially Season 2) , yes.
Seasons 3 - 5 not so much.
I think the problem was that the show was holding the torch for the entire franchise for awhile and everyone thought it was falling way short. But if you don't try to force the entire legacy of Star Trek on it then the show really is just a better version of Andromeda. So in that context, it's fine.
Is it definitive Star Trek or a roadmap for future Trek? No. Is it better than Earth Final Conflict, Andromeda, or other shows with Roddenberry's name stamped on them? Uh, yeah.
Is it a Star Trek show I find very entertaining? Yes.
That's it. That's all Star Trek needs to be. Anything else is gravy.
Also, I enjoyed Acolyte too.
That's it. That's all Star Trek needs to be. Anything else is gravy.
Also, I enjoyed Acolyte too.
That's not exactly a high bar. And I say that as someone who liked EFC for the most part.
WRONG.
Not exactly sure how a subjective opinion can be "wrong", but I respect that you disagree.
I think it's a fascinating show in certain aspects. The fact that DSC went through so much turmoil behind the scenes really shows up onscreen in the way the first few seasons were plotted.
I do wish it had started 900 years in the future, with the Federation dead and Starfleet a legend. A show about rediscovering the past and reforging everything over a span would have been really interesting.
It is what it is though.
I like the characters and the overall design, but it doesn't really take off for me until Season 3.
I do wish it had started 900 years in the future, with the Federation dead and Starfleet a legend. A show about rediscovering the past and reforging everything over a span would have been really interesting.
It is what it is though.
I like the characters and the overall design, but it doesn't really take off for me until Season 3.
They even could have used the same gimmick - a ship from the Golden Age of Star Fleet arrives in the future, and finds the ruins of Star Fleet. There could be some great mystery boxes while they figure out what happened. Then you can go in two directions - how to go back and stop it, or how to fix it from here on out. (Ironically, that is a choice that the Terminator movies have an issue with, as well - is the point that they need JC to save them after the bad future, or is the point to go back and stop it from happening?) That could have been an interesting philsophical discussion to be had, tbh.
I've made jokes in the past, that to me, it all should have been TOS. Phase II, then Kirk gets transferred to command an old battlestation on the border, then Kirk and company get Lost in Space...... now Kirk and company get trapped in the 32nd century! ahah. Classic TOS ship, having to figure out what went wrong....! Wonderful.
Some of the aired future had some good pieces..... Earth as a hostile, closed off isolationist system, Vulcan taking in Romulan refugees after the supernova.... the stuff from Calpyso, for sure.... the complete degradation of everything, shortages of everything, corruption of everything, with an actual TOS style ship and style from the past showing up to figure stuff out.
I love the concept of what DSC3-5 tried to do, but absolutely detest the execution.
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Anyone else notice that when threads like this pop up, the OP never returns with updates?
Yeah. I don't mean anything negative towards OP, but questions like this come up more often. And I will never understand people asking other people if they should or should not watch something.
Or, wait.....
I have a friend who has an almost identical taste in movies and shows. She also knows me well enough that when she likes something and I won't, she'll say so. But honestly, when she tells me or I tell her a show or movie is worth, we're spot on. But we know each other.
If you ask this question on a forum like this, you're going to end up getting 30 different answers in 5 hours time and two or three 'fights' starting about topics that have discussed to death in so many others threads.
So my advice is, if you have a Star Trek fan that is very close to you and your likes and dislikes on Star Trek are very similar, ask that person. Other than that.... Start the pilot and let's see what happens. Let's fly.
I think, and I say this as someone who very broadly likes DSC, if a person were looking for a multi-season sci-fi show produced in the last decade or so… Well, there are better options out there.
It’s a very fragmented show which takes a very unusually long time to put its feet down. BTS problems drag it from pillar to post over Seasons 1-2 and then when it finally settles down in Season 3, I think those BTS problems dissipate and it all settles down a bit.
Season 4 was really, really good. Peak Star Trek.
It’s a frustrating watch though. One for the hardcore I think, because it seems to spend so long bouncing around in early seasons, before actually figuring out what it wants to do. In that sense it does test the viewer.
It is worth it, but at the same time I wouldn’t heartily recommend the experience either… Overall DSC is a very mixed bag.
I’ve yet to watch Season 5. I will. I want to. It’s on my list.
It’s a very fragmented show which takes a very unusually long time to put its feet down. BTS problems drag it from pillar to post over Seasons 1-2 and then when it finally settles down in Season 3, I think those BTS problems dissipate and it all settles down a bit.
Season 4 was really, really good. Peak Star Trek.
It’s a frustrating watch though. One for the hardcore I think, because it seems to spend so long bouncing around in early seasons, before actually figuring out what it wants to do. In that sense it does test the viewer.
It is worth it, but at the same time I wouldn’t heartily recommend the experience either… Overall DSC is a very mixed bag.
I’ve yet to watch Season 5. I will. I want to. It’s on my list.
Mixed bag is the best way to describe it. To me, it felt like lots of incredibly interesting ingredients, but put together in the wrong order.
S1 and 2 were my favourites, but I much prefer the idea of setting it in the 32nd century. However, the 32nd century setting disappointed me, but ideas like species 10-C fascinate me.
I'm genuinely hoping Starfleet Academy will end up smoothing out a lot of the rough patches I've encountered during my time with Discovery. It's worth checking out.
S1 and 2 were my favourites, but I much prefer the idea of setting it in the 32nd century. However, the 32nd century setting disappointed me, but ideas like species 10-C fascinate me.
I'm genuinely hoping Starfleet Academy will end up smoothing out a lot of the rough patches I've encountered during my time with Discovery. It's worth checking out.
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