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Is it wise...

JarodRussell

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... to put the Captain's Ready Room and the Conference Room directly next to the Main Bridge?

EVERY GUEST they have walks through the command center of the Enterprise to meet the Captain in either room. Sounds like a big security risk.
 
Actually, the conference room (or Observation Lounge, as it also was somewhat confusingly and apparently accidentally called) could be accessed from many different directions. At the starboard end, there was a door that supposedly led to the door we saw at the starboard aft corner of the bridge - but not directly, as there was a piece of corridor behind this door on the conference room set, and one early episode even showed a steep ramp along which Riker and the guests descended to this corridor and then to the conference room. This corridor continued aft (to the right of the door as seen from inside the conference room), supposedly leading somewhere; the Sternbach blueprints indicate there's a further ramp there, going down to Deck 2 without visiting any compromising locations.

On the port end of the conference room, the door similarly leads to a corridor with both left and right options available. Right/forward ought to terminate into the turboshaft that feeds the bridge port aft corner turbolift; another risk-free way of delivering people to the conference room. Left/aft is again indicated to be a ramp down to Deck 2, reinforced by the scene (I forget the episode) where a couple of kids are seen playing in the conference room, and our heroes shoo them away - the kids dart to the left, indicating there's indeed an escape route there. Darting to the right would make no sense as the kids wouldn't stop to wait for a turbolift...

So the conference room is risk-free VIP territory. It's just that Picard often allows his VIP guests on the bridge, supposedly as a gesture of trust. If he didn't trust his guests, he'd no doubt take them directly from the transporter room to the nearest turbolift stop, then take that lift directly to the portside door of the conference room!

Letting the VIPs into the Ready Room is the ultimate gesture of trust. If Picard wanted to keep ship's security intact, he'd simply receive his guests elsewhere. Indeed, it would be a bit silly and even insulting to take the guests to what is essentially the closet where Picard catches a quick nap, opens his bottle, or rubs his crotch, during those situations where he can't leave the bridge for more comfortable and representative locations. But the insult becomes a compliment when Picard takes his VIPs to this facility despite this compromising not only ship security but also Picard's privacy!

Who did Picard receive in his ready room that he shouldn't have, really? He had Gul Macet there at one point, but he also made the important propaganda point of allowing Macet access to his bridge during combat operations - and indeed letting Macet use the ship for hunting down another Starfleet ship! Picard's other guests there seemed to be quite benign, mostly being trusted Starfleet/UFP officials or allies.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Kirk's quarters were apparently his ready room and the conference room was on another deck on the original Enterprise. I suppose if you're summoned to either on a 24th-Century ship, you've already been cleared to enter the bridge by shipboard security.

Of course anyone can flip out and go crazy on the bridge, at which time the appropriate can of whup-ass is promptly opened by the chief of security and other personnel there...
 
We still have a somewhat vague idea of what was where in the TOS ship. "The Cage" suggested that Captain Pike's quarters were right next to the briefing room at that time, in a section of the ship where the corridors weren't curved, and possibly directly below the bridge. However, we could easily say that this was Pike's Ready Room (quite useful for brief brooding in between barking orders), and that Kirk retained this exact same facility (but brooded a lot less) - and that the actual living quarters for the CO, somewhat larger and more comfortable, were located further down, possibly on Deck 5 as specified in "Journey to Babel". In this, Pike/Kirk's ship would thus resemble Picard's.

The rooms in which Kirk held his briefings, receptions, interrogations and investigations were probably clustered somewhere near the transporters, the main access route for people in need of briefing, pandering or interrogating. Since Kirk's ship didn't have obvious scenic spots like Picard's Observation Lounge or Ten-Forward, such logistical convenience quite justly dictated the placement of the facilities...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Presumably it would depend on who is visiting. An Admiral, another Captain, or even another Starfleet officer irrespective of rank, there would be little need for restrictions on the bridge. I remember Worf once saying that people needed bridge clearance before entering, and it makes sense. it's the command centre of the ship, and no Tom, Dick and Harry should be allowed there whenever they want.

I doubt even the head of state/government of another power would be denied access. Sisko may be a badass, but i doubt he would have denied Zek access to Ops. He's not dumb enough to cause a major diplomatic incident lol. Likewise, if Martok ever visited the Enterprise-E or DS9 again, I doubt Picard or Kira would deny him access.

I think it would make the most sense if the person was a civilian, or somebody from an enemy power. This could have been (in TNG's time) a Romulan, or in DS9's time a Founder/Vorta/Jem Hadar.

Even in the Wounded, the crew didn't want the Cardassians to have the run of the ship. And why should they have had it? They were not enemies again in the strict sense, but why let somebody from a race with whom you've had a long and stalemated war with get access to critical areas? What if he uses knowledge to tell Central Command, who in turn retrofit their fleet with the new knowledge and attack the Federation again lol. It would not surprise me if they would have done that. Maxwell was vindicated. The Cardassians didn't give a damn about peace, they wanted to re-group and attack again.
 
I'm just going to bump this thread here, since it's the same topic.

I just noticed that they also have the full view of the bridge when they communicate with others, no matter if friend or foe. The engineering station on the Enterprise-D bridge, for instance. Probably with highly sensitive information (like shield frequency, lol). And we know that in Star Trek everyone has these CSI wonder video cameras that you can endlessly zoom to find a microbe in best quality. So if anyone wanted, they could just read what's displayed there and use it against them.

So they have guests walking through the command center, and everyone who's talking to them via the viewscreen can basically see the entire bridge with most of the stations. I don't know if that's wise. ;)

And if I remember right, there's also no control over who gets into the main turbolift headed for the bridge. On several occasions people just walked in and stood around until Picard or Worf noticed. Talk about a security breach, lol.
 
^none of the consoles were visible whenever we saw the bridge from the other ship's viewer IIRC
 
And if I remember right, there's also no control over who gets into the main turbolift headed for the bridge. On several occasions people just walked in and stood around until Picard or Worf noticed. Talk about a security breach, lol.

Yeah, I've noticed that, too.
 
And if I remember right, there's also no control over who gets into the main turbolift headed for the bridge. On several occasions people just walked in and stood around until Picard or Worf noticed. Talk about a security breach, lol.
Yeah, I've noticed that, too.
You'd think the ship's main computer could do a security check of some sort - maybe tied into presence of a Starfleet combadge - before allowing the turbolift to proceed to the bridge (or other security-sensitive areas, for that matter).
 
I just noticed that they also have the full view of the bridge when they communicate with others, no matter if friend or foe. The engineering station on the Enterprise-D bridge, for instance. Probably with highly sensitive information (like shield frequency, lol). And we know that in Star Trek everyone has these CSI wonder video cameras that you can endlessly zoom to find a microbe in best quality. So if anyone wanted, they could just read what's displayed there and use it against them.

Thing is, when communicating with another ship on the viewscreen, the viewscreen's "camera" usually seems to just focus on the ship's captain, thus preventing the other ship from seeing anything that might be displayed on a console facing the screen.
 
Might well be that the Enterprise gets to choose what's show and at which resolution; simply having the aft consoles off focus would deny the enemy the key information of those digits that indicate shield frequency.

OTOH, every Trek species and culture seems guilty of this: regardless of the degree of forehead bumpiness, the dramatically convenient way to indicate that the talking head on the viewscreen is a starship captain is to place some monitors behind him or her or it...

A valid nitpick in any case. Here we can't plead the "it's a gesture of trust" thing because generally not even our easygoing heroes really trust the people they are talking with, not from the get-go - yet they still agree to revealing their inner sanctum from the very start of the communication process. We probably have to accept that it's not practical to derive sensitive information from the fuzzy visuals of background monitors, not even with future image enhancement technologies. But even that won't solve things like the opponent immediately learning that there are Klingons or females on Picard's bridge, or that Picard is a feeble old man, or that the red alert lights are flashing, or that the last volley reduced the bridge to a smoking ruin. All sorts of potentially important information is being volunteered in visual communication of that sort even though there's no pressing need to do so.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Maybe starships are all equipped with a holofilter like the Defiant. That would take care of everything. :bolian:
 
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