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Is it true?

It's just odd that you, MikeNeko, became a member to this forum moments before you posted your question. To date, you only have five posts here--all in this one topic. So this seems to be your sole intent of joining Trek BBS.

Of course, if you were all that curious about this issue, you could have gone over to the Phase II forum to ask your question there. Are you a member in good standing there? You said you tried to ask questions and all you got is silence. Where did you ask your questions--and of whom? Also, would you agree that we actually are entitled to be silent on the issue if we so choose? Or is this information that you are entitled to for some reason?

In the end, however, did you get a satisfactory response to your question? Do you still "need" more details on this subject?
 
Also, would you agree that we actually are entitled to be silent on the issue if we so choose?

Not if you are willing to keep people informed on the Forum.

If you ask a simple question like is James working at Lake George this summer it gets deleted, why?

YOU even stated that Part II of Blood & Fire has been shown at several conventions. Why not show it on the internet in the same state that you are showing it at conventions and then replace it when it is finished. You did that with "To Serve All My Days".

Finally I came to the Kitumba set to see JG Hertzler as a Klingon because for months you had an article posted about JG returning to his Klingon roots. When are you going to let people know that did not happen?

Also you better check about me posting on TrekBBS before you make statements that are untrue.
 
...Part II of Blood & Fire has been shown at several conventions. Why not show it on the internet in the same state that you are showing it at conventions and then replace it when it is finished. .

In fact I saw part II of "Blood & Fire" at last year's DragonCon. It was very impressive and I'm sure that it's come a long way in post-production since then.

That said, there's not a reason in the world that a good producer would want to release this kind of thing on the Internet before it's completely ready.

IMAO.
 
Why not show it on the internet in the same state that you are showing it at conventions and then replace it when it is finished. You did that with "To Serve All My Days"

Did they? I think the version I saw of "To Serve All My Days" was complete. The later "1969" version was more of a publicity gimmick than a final release.
 
Also, would you agree that we actually are entitled to be silent on the issue if we so choose?

Not if you are willing to keep people informed on the Forum.

If you ask a simple question like is James working at Lake George this summer it gets deleted, why?

YOU even stated that Part II of Blood & Fire has been shown at several conventions. Why not show it on the internet in the same state that you are showing it at conventions and then replace it when it is finished. You did that with "To Serve All My Days".

Finally I came to the Kitumba set to see JG Hertzler as a Klingon because for months you had an article posted about JG returning to his Klingon roots. When are you going to let people know that did not happen?

Also you better check about me posting on TrekBBS before you make statements that are untrue.

If you ask Elvis questions on our Phase II board, they will get deleted. James maintains his sanity (well, as sane as he ever really gets) by compartmentalizing the two big aspects of his very complicated life pretty dramatically--his Star Trek life and his Elvis impersantor life. As someone who knows him well, I can tell you that it messes him up when you try to get him to task-switch between his two worlds. He doesn’t like (and doesn’t really allow) Elvis discussions on his Phase II forum. And if you go up to him backstage after one of his Elvis concerts and ask him about his really cool Enterprise bridge set, he gets similarly perturbed. As you can see from our Phase II forum and its thousands and thousands of archived posts, simple questions are not, in fact, deleted—but Elvis questions almost always are. We’ve all learned that’s just the way it is with James. But there are probably Elvis impersonator forums out there in Internet-land. (Just don't ask Star Trek questions on those Elvis forums.)

The reason we don’t pass out works in progress on the Internet even though we show them at conventions is that showing them at conventions doesn’t create a permanent record that people keep and copy. As an example, to this day there are copies of early versions of “To Serve All My Days” that continue to circulate on the Internet like vampires or zombies, even though the improved "night in 1969" version was released. It turns out, of course, that there’s no way to recall all the old obsolete copies that people have once a later version of an episode is released. We can't really "replace" it as you suggest on everyone's computers all over the world. So, we learned our lesson the hard way: no permanent copies should be released on the Internet until the episode is ready since they will be out there forever. We’ll probably still show works in progress at conventions because we value the input and make editing changes based on feedback and it doesn’t generate a permanent copy. But if people start videotaping our convention screenings from under their coats to make bootleg copies, we would probably stop doing that, too.

It’s unfortunate that J.G. Hertzler couldn’t attend the shoot-especially if that was your primary motivation for your participation in our shoot. (We announced on our Phase II forum on June 17, 2009--shortly after we wrapped—that J.G. ended up being unavailable.) We announced back in January that J.G. would have the significant role of “K’Sia” in our “Kitumba” episode but after J.G. tore his rotator cuff, he knew he would have to have a substantially reduced role. He wasn’t sure where our shooting would fall in relation to his surgical repair of the tear. (We were fortunate that our director could do double duty and step in as “K’Sia”—not an ideal solution but it worked out well.) J.G. was still slated to make a very small cameo appearance as a visiting Starfleet admiral, and those scenes were delayed until the last day of the shoot to try and accommodate J.G.’s schedule. In the end, it just wasn’t in the cards for J.G. and he couldn’t show up. (It’s hard for us to complain too loudly when he’s nice enough to volunteer his time just like any other crew member.) But fortunately, Gil Gerard and Andy Probert were in the studio visiting that day, and we hastily constructed costumes for them and they graciously stepped in as the visiting Starfleet brass.

Although we announced on our Phase II forum that J.G. wasn’t able to attend (the same day that we did announce Gil’s and Andy’s cameo appearances), it’s always hard for us to know exactly how loudly to announce when our shoots don’t go according to plan. “Announcement from the Phase II Team! Phase II announces that J.G. Hertzler tears rotator cuff and doesn’t ultimately appear in ‘Kitumba’ as planned!” (Is that the type of announcement you were thinking we should post on our web site?)

Your Trek BBS profile indicates that you became a member on June 28, 2009 and your first post was that same day. As of my last post at 6:04 yesterday morning, you had indeed posted only five messages--all in this one thread. If anyone were even remotely interested for some unfathomable reason, they can check you profile and posting history themselves to see if I’m representing it accurately. But I apologize in advance if there is something that I’m not understanding.

Getting back to the subject of this thread, did you get a satisfactory answer to your questions regarding the inaccessible "Kitumba" footage on our crashed hard drive?
 
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Yes I've noticed that both you and James Cawley have looked at my profile.

I know that Elvis questions are posted on the Forum and are still there. But I admit you are right. James does not answer them, his inner circle people answer them and that is quite alright because you can not pull one person in too many directions or you end up with nothing.

Greg, I think that you are a cool guy and level headed. Yes you have answered my questions. You might have been a little flustered with me but you treated me with respect. I can accept YOUR intelligent and informed answers rather than the baby answers we are given on the forum. Thank you. :techman:
 
MikeNeko

If you were involved enough to be at the shoot and have any continuing questions/problems with a Retro Film Studios production (Phase 2). Please privately PM on the Phase 2 board, (I'm NV_Scotty) with your real name and phone number and I will call you and we can discuss your concerns.

Charles Root
Retro Film Studios, LLC
Financial Dept Lead
Associate Producer
Star Trek: Phase 2
 
MikeNeko

If you were involved enough to be at the shoot and have any continuing questions/problems with a Retro Film Studios production (Phase 2). Please privately PM on the Phase 2 board, (I'm NV_Scotty) with your real name and phone number and I will call you and we can discuss your concerns.

Charles Root
Retro Film Studios, LLC
Financial Dept Lead
Associate Producer
Star Trek: Phase 2

And how foolish would that be? :vulcan:

You would tell James and I would never be asked back to the set. I enjoyed Fort Ticonderoga and the Wagon Wheel. Hey I enjoy going to Port Henry. See you at the next shoot. :techman:
 
Hmmm I wouldn't think it would be foolish for you to contact me and discuss your concerns on a professional level.

Anyway, best wishes, see you on the sets.

-Charles
 
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We announced back in January that J.G. would have the significant role of “K’Sia” in our “Kitumba” episode but after J.G. tore his rotator cuff, he knew he would have to have a substantially reduced role. He wasn’t sure where our shooting would fall in relation to his surgical repair of the tear. (We were fortunate that our director could do double duty and step in as “K’Sia”—not an ideal solution but it worked out well.)

Just to correct... the role of "K'Sia" was taken on by an actor in our production that does double-duty as part of our VFX team: Pony R. Horton. The director (Vic Mignogna) played "Warlord Malkthon", and was cast in that role from the beginning.
 
Sorry Greg, it just was so much fun being on the set dressed up as a Klingon. When I heard that you lost what we had shot, I just wanted to find out it was true. I did not mention that it was Star Trek: Phase II in my original post. I was trying to keep it quiet.
Why bring it up in an open (public) forum at all? Why not simply ask someone privately?


A very good point, and one I thank you for. Any fan can contact me regarding any concern, question or comment directly from our website (Contact Page), so even sans a Forum Account, I am always reachable; able to direct emails to others if needed, and answer virtually any question (even if some of the questions get an "I cant tell you that right now" - for instance "Who's the guest star for the next episode?")

And regarding things of a technical nature, there is no one on the team more qualified to answer such questions...


SO MikeNeko,
Who exactly did you ask? Sure as heck wasn't either Line Producer (me or Sarge), sure as heck isn't STP2's Tech Admin (me), sure as heck wasnt sent via email to the Contact email address.

Now... about no being asked back to the shoot if you talked to Charles, that is silly. As for your opinion that you seem to think either (a) you should not be or (b) we should think you should not be; either can be arranged if you truly like. I find it sad that you would not talk to Charles (and now the offer - which was always there - stands that you can also contact me). It's funny, an unwillingness to discuss your issues and concerns would be more of a reason to not invite you back - something that regardless of your presumed anonymity here, could be arranged, if you truly want it.

...or perhaps you wish to discuss your concerns and issues with Charles or I. From someone who has know Charles for years, I know he does not take umbrage or offense at someone who wishes to reasonably discuss any concerns they have. I would like to think I am the same.

Robert Mauro
Line Producer
Star Trek Phase 2
 
Senior Executive Producer - James Cawley
Co-Executive Producer - Gary Evans
Co-Executive Producer - Gregory L. Schnitzer
Executive Producer - John Muenchrath
Executive Producer - Erik J. Goodrich
Consulting Producer/Story Editor - David Gerrold
Consulting Producer/Story Editor - D. C. Fontana
Consulting Producer - Eugene Roddenberry, Jr.
Senior Line Producer - Andrew Grieb
Line Producer - Robert Mauro
Associate Producer/Story Editor - Patty Wright
Second Unit Director - Ben Alpi

DOH!!!! :crazy:
 
Senior Executive Producer - James Cawley
Co-Executive Producer - Gary Evans
Co-Executive Producer - Gregory L. Schnitzer
Executive Producer - John Muenchrath
Executive Producer - Erik J. Goodrich
Consulting Producer/Story Editor - David Gerrold
Consulting Producer/Story Editor - D. C. Fontana
Consulting Producer - Eugene Roddenberry, Jr.
Senior Line Producer - Andrew Grieb
Line Producer - Robert Mauro
Associate Producer/Story Editor - Patty Wright
Second Unit Director - Ben Alpi

DOH!!!! :crazy:

Ummm... yup... Any of the Phase 2 regulars can confirm who I am... as can various of this Forum's Administrators. And if you have been at a shoot, you know exactly who I am - and I most likely know exactly who you are. ;) There isn't a single person who has attended a shoot in the last few years who does not know me. But that aside, I dont see why you posted that - I put my title (well that one anyway) in my sig to that post. Contacting me regarding any concern is a simple click away on our website (the "Contact Us" link at the top).

So... wanna talk? If you dont still have my email or phone number, hit the "Contact Us" link on our site.

Robert
 
Senior Executive Producer - James Cawley
Co-Executive Producer - Gary Evans
Co-Executive Producer - Gregory L. Schnitzer
Executive Producer - John Muenchrath
Executive Producer - Erik J. Goodrich
Consulting Producer/Story Editor - David Gerrold
Consulting Producer/Story Editor - D. C. Fontana
Consulting Producer - Eugene Roddenberry, Jr.
Senior Line Producer - Andrew Grieb
Line Producer - Robert Mauro
Associate Producer/Story Editor - Patty Wright
Second Unit Director - Ben Alpi

DOH!!!! :crazy:

Ummm... yup... Any of the Phase 2 regulars can confirm who I am... as can various of this Forum's Administrators. And if you have been at a shoot, you know exactly who I am - and I most likely know exactly who you are. ;) There isn't a single person who has attended a shoot in the last few years who does not know me. But that aside, I dont see why you posted that - I put my title (well that one anyway) in my sig to that post. Contacting me regarding any concern is a simple click away on our website (the "Contact Us" link at the top).

So... wanna talk? If you dont still have my email or phone number, hit the "Contact Us" link on our site.

Robert

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If I might respectfully make a small point (not being part of any of this)... MikeNeko's purpose in joining here seems to be to create distraction and distrust among those working on Phase II. Such dishonest motivations aren't worth your time or energy.

It is heartening that so many have taken the time to step forward when there was the possibility of an honest question, but further good faith efforts here by those working on Phase II can only work to fuel MikeNeko's ulterior motives.

MikeNeko has attempted to speak as though he was part of the Phase II production and our moderators acted quickly to stop him. And as he seems to have no other purpose here, I would guess that if all involved ignore the bait he is putting out, he'll most likely move on to something less mischievous.

:rolleyes:

... or at least one could hope. :wtf:
 
If I might respectfully make a small point (not being part of any of this)... MikeNeko's purpose in joining here seems to be to create distraction and distrust among those working on Phase II. Such dishonest motivations aren't worth your time or energy.

It is heartening that so many have taken the time to step forward when there was the possibility of an honest question, but further good faith efforts here by those working on Phase II can only work to fuel MikeNeko's ulterior motives.

MikeNeko has attempted to speak as though he was part of the Phase II production and our moderators acted quickly to stop him. And as he seems to have no other purpose here, I would guess that if all involved ignore the bait he is putting out, he'll most likely move on to something less mischievous.

:rolleyes:

... or at least one could hope. :wtf:

Thanks, Shaw. I think your observation was right on the money.

It was my sense that many of MikeNeko's post were mostly just mischief. But as long as I could answer them in a way that was (plausibly) somewhat interesting to other readers who might be curious about some of behind-the-curtains details it takes to put one of our productions together, then I was (and am) willing to engage in some chatter. (There was a nice post about the effort we go through to backup our data, so someone seemed to be reading along with some interest.)

But after five Phase II producers all started weighing in instead of just one, it seems clear that if there was indeed any effort on MikeNeko's part to get us all jumping around, after two weeks, it finally worked spectacularly.

At any rate, I can and will still answer MikeNeko's questions to the degree that I think a reponse from me might actually be of some interest to the forum members as a whole. But to the degree it's just a tit-for-tat, then indeed it should probably just have been done (and should be done in the future) offline with MikeNeko personally.

MikeNeko and Sharkey raise some interesting questions and make many interesting observations--some of which have some kernel of truth. And while I do want to make sure I'm not dismissive of MikeNeko, whoever he or she might be, it's my sense that many of his or her concerns really are things no other Phase II viewers, fans, or supporters really have much interest in hearing about. MikeNeko seems to hold an atypical set of interests about our production and sometimes seems more interested in being a provocateur than in actually getting questions answered.

All that being said, I trust Mallory to keep this board from getting bogged down with essentially one-on-one discussions--whether its by policing people who wave bait around or by policing people who get into a feeding frenzy chomping at the bait.

But thanks Shaw for being another cool head and a voice of calm in all this.
 
I heard that one of my favorite Fan Films forgot to back up their filming :eek: Is there anyway to retrieve what they shot off of their hard drive???

Once again just to remind everyone, my original post never mentioned which Fan Film it was. A PM to me on this Forum would have sufficed.
 
If I might respectfully make a small point (not being part of any of this)... MikeNeko's purpose in joining here seems to be to create distraction and distrust among those working on Phase II. Such dishonest motivations aren't worth your time or energy.

It is heartening that so many have taken the time to step forward when there was the possibility of an honest question, but further good faith efforts here by those working on Phase II can only work to fuel MikeNeko's ulterior motives.

MikeNeko has attempted to speak as though he was part of the Phase II production and our moderators acted quickly to stop him. And as he seems to have no other purpose here, I would guess that if all involved ignore the bait he is putting out, he'll most likely move on to something less mischievous.

:rolleyes:

... or at least one could hope. :wtf:


Agreed, and thanks for the insight.

I heard that one of my favorite Fan Films forgot to back up their filming :eek: Is there anyway to retrieve what they shot off of their hard drive???

Once again just to remind everyone, my original post never mentioned which Fan Film it was. A PM to me on this Forum would have sufficed.

I wish I could. Can't seem to find any form of contact link for you here (PM or otherwise). I guess that means you need to take the first step and email me. Until then, I am dropping out of this discussion here and elsewhere. If Shaw is incorrect (and you are serious about anything you have said), you'll contact me. I am by far the easiest accessible member of our crew. If Shaw is correct, you won't ever contact me.

Best,
Robert

PS: My apologies and thanks to the moderation team on this board.
 
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