Hey, if they can make a white guy black, they can make a tall guy short.
Is it time to put Star Trek to rest?
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Hey, if they can make a white guy black, they can make a tall guy short.
It wasn't like they were asking us to believe the two were taking place at the same time. They were a hundred years apart.
You lose the baggage as well. That baggage isn't always good for the types of stories they want to tell, in my opinion.
The baggage seems to be all they have, creatively.
Garak: "My dear doctor, they're all Prime."
Bashir: "Even the Kelvin timeline?"
Garak: "Especially the Kel..."
No... no, I just can't. Even I can't make this joke with a straight face.
Looks like. Surface level stuff. The two stories cannot plausibly co-exist if the classic Enterprise went to the edge of the galaxy twice and the centre of the galaxy twice, when that's half of Voyager's 75 year journey. But because they crossed over, you accept it blindly.
But content-wise, they don't make any sense. discovery at least classified the spore drive at the end of season two
Because they accept each both exist independent of each other, partially due to the gap of time between the two.
If I'm thinking about TOS while watching Voyager, then the writers of Voyager are doing it wrong. That boils down my biggest issue with what CBS does, I spend more time thinking about past Trek when watching new Trek.
I think ‘accept blindly’ is a double edged sword here personally. There’s plenty accepting blindly what CBS says is right, even when it runs contrary to what they are actually putting onscreen.
Great things that the Kelvin films gave to the Prime universe.
Isn't that just "speed of plot"? There are bound to be stories from TNG that couldn't possibly exist with other TNG episodes if travel speed had to remain precise.Looks like. Surface level stuff. The two stories cannot plausibly co-exist if the classic Enterprise went to the edge of the galaxy twice and the centre of the galaxy twice, when that's half of Voyager's 75 year journey. But because they crossed over, you accept it blindly.
But content-wise, they don't make any sense. discovery at least classified the spore drive at the end of season two
(Just remembered how the Enterprise-E got from the Romulan Neutral Zone, to Earth, in time for the same battle they just heard on the wireless)
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Great things that the Kelvin films gave to the Prime universe.
Three incredibly entertaining stories!
Indeed, yes. I think "blind acceptance" is something needing careful consideration as a phrase. Each person takes Trek by their own measure, just like other art. One person I heard about acted out Shakespeare with their GI Joe action figures.
To me, TOS is entire incompatible with later Trek. It goes faster, things are way more unknown, and rarely do any of the discoveries in TOS matter down the road. So, why connect to TMP, going forward.
So, I take continuity with a grain of salt or twelve. Because Trek only felt like one big happy fleet between TNG-VOY-DS9, and somewhat with the TOS films.
To me, TOS is entire incompatible with later Trek. It goes faster, things are way more unknown, and rarely do any of the discoveries in TOS matter down the road. So, why connect to TMP, going forward.
So, I take continuity with a grain of salt or twelve. Because Trek only felt like one big happy fleet between TNG-VOY-DS9, and somewhat with the TOS films.
2 and a half, but that's just me. But I was just referring to things directly added to the Prime timeline that appeared in the Kelvin films.
Looks like. Surface level stuff. The two stories cannot plausibly co-exist if the classic Enterprise went to the edge of the galaxy twice and the centre of the galaxy twice, when that's half of Voyager's 75 year journey. But because they crossed over, you accept it blindly.
But content-wise, they don't make any sense. discovery at least classified the spore drive at the end of season two
One of those stories also had a 78 deck tall Enterprise. And I love TAS but The Magicks of Megas-tu is not the most scientifically rigorous of stories. But it might be more than Star Trek V.
If you think you can "fall into the sun" for a Goldilocks' planet orbit in a single 15 minute act of a show, you can probably be forgiven for thinking you can get around the galaxy pretty quick.
Great things that the Kelvin films gave to the Prime universe.
The Kelvin, the Franklin, and the Franklin crew uniforms were great. Unfortunately Robau is deeply overrated, but that’s only because fandom here went all meme-y with him.
I never understood the Robau thing. He’s just a random bald guy who dies in 5 minutes.
Which I suppose is the point of the joke?
Maybe you had to be there.
Which I suppose is the point of the joke?
Maybe you had to be there.
Dude's a badass. Epitomizes calm under fire.
Some other captains/commodores we’ve seen for five or so minutes:
Styles
Harriman
Stocker
A bunch of vaguely remembered ones in BermanTrek.
Robau seems rather more impressive. Cuz he’s a badass.
(But, to be fair, while I enjoy the memes, I can see where their appeal is not universal).
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