Good points. It started with the MTV generation and now their kids, the YouTube generation.
Is it possible to whittle down all the Canon Issues down to 3x Time Lines?
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Two are enough. Thread over.
I'd argue that it's two since the First Contact and beyond time line over-wrote the original continuity to some degree.
I don’t remember; did anyone ever tell Cochrane the name of the ship?
Lily could've told him afterwards.
Real life itself has enough big, confusing continuity issues. So if stuff doesn't line up quite right across a fictional TV/movie franchise, no big deal. For me personally, there's TOS as its own thing, with TMP and TWOK being "broad strokes" follow-ups, and then there's all of the rest of Trek.
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Yeah, Troi does when they show him the ship in his own telescope.
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So here’s the thing: either the Enterprise and the Borg going back in time created a new timeline, or the Enterprise and the Borg going back in time was always supposed to happen, in which case the timeline wouldn’t have changed at all. If we examine the evidence (primarily, Cochrane in “Metamophosis” didn’t bat an eye when Kirk mentioned the name of his ship; one would think that the mention of the name “Enterprise” would have had more of an effect on Cochrane if it was his idea to rename the Dauntless to the Enterprise in tribute to Picard’s ship, or even mention that he had once met time travelers from a ship of the same name), it seems like the former hypothesis is the correct one. In which case, the Enterprise crew would then have returned to their own time to find that things are now a bit different than they were before (the ‘Back to the Future’ effect, or ‘Hot Tub Time Machine’ effect, if you will.)
As for the Dept. of Temporal Investigations, I never got the impression that they had any kind of power to change things timeline-wise; they were just an organization that interviewed and documented any time someone time-traveled.
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"I will never understand the human propensity to express in ten words what could be as easily expressed in three."
Or something like that.
Obviously it goes like so:
The Gene Timeline Consists of TOS, TMP, TNG seasons 1-5. Can also be called The Stinky Timeline, though I'm not sure how many younglings around here would get the reference.
The Meyer Timeline TWOK-TUC
The Berman Timeline TNG seasons 6 and 7, TNG movies, DS9, Voyager.
The Bermaga Timeline Enterprise, though some aspects of Voyager seasons 5 and 6 can be "grandfathered" in.
The Abrams Timeline Trek XI, STID, Beyond. Colloquially known as the Kelvin Timeline, or can also be known as the Filthy timeline. Because Abrams is filthy, apparently.
The Kurtzman Timeline Disco, Picard, Lower Decks and any forthcoming productions. Can also be called the 25% Timeline, because of That Myth.
The Gene Timeline Consists of TOS, TMP, TNG seasons 1-5. Can also be called The Stinky Timeline, though I'm not sure how many younglings around here would get the reference.
The Meyer Timeline TWOK-TUC
The Berman Timeline TNG seasons 6 and 7, TNG movies, DS9, Voyager.
The Bermaga Timeline Enterprise, though some aspects of Voyager seasons 5 and 6 can be "grandfathered" in.
The Abrams Timeline Trek XI, STID, Beyond. Colloquially known as the Kelvin Timeline, or can also be known as the Filthy timeline. Because Abrams is filthy, apparently.
The Kurtzman Timeline Disco, Picard, Lower Decks and any forthcoming productions. Can also be called the 25% Timeline, because of That Myth.
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I see no reason to assume that there are any more than TWO timelines: Prime, and Kelvin.
Neither do I, but this conversation and variants on it are always cropping up so might as well roll with it. When in Rome and all that.
I think I’d include all of TNG in the same timeline with DS9 and VOY (Rodderman? Bermanberry?), they were already distancing themselves from TOS in Season 1.
Solves everything...
... until the next time this topic comes up. Marks the calendar...
She was already in the rewritten timeline post-FC by that point. The changes minimized over time, probably with some nudging by TI. By the time the 24th happened, the changes were slight; Picard never noticed, and Seven had all the knowledge of the rewritten timeline.
Well it can’t be too meaningless if you felt the need to post about it
I don't believe the Department of Temporal Investigations has any power over time travel. They are just a branch of Starfleet that interviews officers who have traveled through time. As for the rest, I pretty much agree. FC took place on stardate 50893, and Scorpion (7 of 9's first appearance) took place on stardate 50984. So she was first seen post-FC with whatever changes were made to the timeline (if one subscribes to the idea that the timeline changed after FC.)
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But they still answered to future Temporal agents further ahead in the time line according to the novels.
Now that's an interesting thought, does it mean they in turn answer to agents from a further future still?
Is seniority based on your date of origin?
