I didn't see the reference
Is it possible to whittle down all the Canon Issues down to 3x Time Lines?
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I didn't see the reference
I still am a huge Trekkie. There are other things I watch, but Trek is my one true entertainment love.
That is perfectly possible. There are many episodes which seem to be sequels to previous episodes in the same or other series,but which could possibly be sequels to events similar to, but not identical with, and thus happening in alternate universes to, the events in those previous episodes and movies.
Thus it is possible that all 579 episodes and movies mentioned by Prax, and any other Star Trek productions, might happen in separate alternate universes and that no Star Trek production is a sequel to events exactly like those in any other Star Trek production.
Extremely little, Ensign.
But seriously, I've never bothered watching Attack of the Clones (The Phantom Menace managed to kill off most of my Star Wars fandom in the space of about two hours), so any reference to it usually flies right over my head.
I've been reading The Fifty-Year Mission. I think I've been too harsh on Brannon Braga over the last two decades. But I don't think I've been too harsh on Rick Berman.
I don't like ENT, and I don't like S5-S6 of VOY as much as S1-S4 & S7. I blamed that on Brannon Braga. But it now looks pretty clear that Rick Berman was determined to impose his will over Brannon Braga in a way that he couldn't with Michael Piller, Jeri Taylor, and Ira Behr who were all older, more experienced, and much more likely to stand up to Rick or be less afraid to disagree with him.
Rick Berman saw Brannon Braga as someone he could have more control over. By VOY S7, he didn't care because they were developing ENT, so Ken Biller had it easy. He just had to run out the clock. It seems like after a certain point, if someone came up with something cool, Rick Berman's first inclination was to find a way to say "no". He should've run for Congress.
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Extremely little, Ensign.
But seriously, I've never bothered watching Attack of the Clones (The Phantom Menace managed to kill off most of my Star Wars fandom in the space of about two hours), so any reference to it usually flies right over my head.
You gotta see Attack of the Clones. It is like being a Trek fan and not treating yourself to a double-bill of "The Alternative Factor" and "Spock's Brain" on occasion.
Replace Spock's Brain with And the Children Shall Lead, and then you've got a truly horrifying combination.You gotta see Attack of the Clones. It is like being a Trek fan and not treating yourself to a double-bill of "The Alternative Factor" and "Spock's Brain" on occasion.
If someone had said "I don't like sand," or "You don't want to sell me death sticks," or "I am a slow learner" you'd probably have gotten thoseExtremely little, Ensign.
But seriously, I've never bothered watching Attack of the Clones (The Phantom Menace managed to kill off most of my Star Wars fandom in the space of about two hours), so any reference to it usually flies right over my head.
The sand line, definitely.
But really, all I ever need to know about Attack of the Clones is enough to get the jokes in Tag and Bink are Dead.
1. PRIME
2. KELVIN
3. MIRROR
5. RENEGADES
8. ORVILLE
112. DOCTOR WHO
2. KELVIN
3. MIRROR
5. RENEGADES
8. ORVILLE
112. DOCTOR WHO
Eighth?!?!
Noneth?
Finally! A category I excel in!
You forgot Galaxy Quest in there.
As well as whatever timeline Lazarus is from in "The Alternative Factor."
You excel in the category of rewatching the prequel trilogy?
AOTC in particular.
I have a nostalgic weak spot for the films since they were the first new SW I watched in cinemas, but then again I’d take clunky dialogue and varied visuals over an ANH riff-on any day.
I just find it entertaining of all the PT. But, I have definitely watched TFA and TLJ more in comparison to the PT.
I will systematically prove that all Star Trek series are in the same universe. That universe being the Universe of TOS (disregarding trips to parallel universe or the occasional time travel adventure that has always been shown to be reversed):
First, let's define a Star Trek series. There are seven main series: TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, and Discovery. There's also Short Treks, but those are unrelated shorts I will consider on par with the films.
So, I will ask a question and elaborate for each of the sequels to TOS.
2. Star Trek: The Animated Series (TAS)
Is this a continuation of TOS? Yes. Same characters, references to events of TOS. Easiest of the bunch.
3. Star Trek: The Next Generation (TNG)
Is this a continuation of TOS? Yes. Spock shows up, referencing TOS. So does Sarek. Scotty shows up and sits on the bridge of the original Enterprise. Same universe, no doubt.
4. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (DS9)
Is this a continuation of TOS? Yes. They time travel into a TOS episode, and comment on it being a real historical event.
5. Star Trek: Voyager (Voyager)
Is this a continuation of TOS? Yes. Tuvok flashbacks to hanging out with Sulu. They talk about Kirk and crew and the historical five-year mission.
6. Enterprise
Is this a continuation of TOS? Kinda, as it's a prequel. But it's a continuation of Star Trek: First Contact, a TNG movie, and we see the USS Defiant from TOS show up (albeit in an alternate universe) with information on Archer and crew as historical figures in the TOS era.
7. Star Trek: Discovery (Discovery)
Is this a continuation of TOS? Well, it's also a prequel, except in one respect: it features a direct sequel episode to The Cage (TOS's unsold pilot), itself canonized by its inclusion in The Menagerie. So, Yes, same universe. No doubt. Err, uh, not much doubt.
All the movies feature characters from the series (TOS and TNG, intricately tied together by Relics and Generations). The Kelvin universe films is an alternate timeline caused by a Spock who is from the TOS films era per a photograph in Star Trek Beyond (and therefore, via Relics and Generations, the original TOS).
The Short Treks are all outgrowths of Discovery, or Discovery's interpretation of the Pike-era Enterprise, and are therefore in-continuity with each other. We can argue about Harry Mudd or Calypso, but it's getting a little pedantic at that point.
First, let's define a Star Trek series. There are seven main series: TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, and Discovery. There's also Short Treks, but those are unrelated shorts I will consider on par with the films.
So, I will ask a question and elaborate for each of the sequels to TOS.
2. Star Trek: The Animated Series (TAS)
Is this a continuation of TOS? Yes. Same characters, references to events of TOS. Easiest of the bunch.
3. Star Trek: The Next Generation (TNG)
Is this a continuation of TOS? Yes. Spock shows up, referencing TOS. So does Sarek. Scotty shows up and sits on the bridge of the original Enterprise. Same universe, no doubt.
4. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (DS9)
Is this a continuation of TOS? Yes. They time travel into a TOS episode, and comment on it being a real historical event.
5. Star Trek: Voyager (Voyager)
Is this a continuation of TOS? Yes. Tuvok flashbacks to hanging out with Sulu. They talk about Kirk and crew and the historical five-year mission.
6. Enterprise
Is this a continuation of TOS? Kinda, as it's a prequel. But it's a continuation of Star Trek: First Contact, a TNG movie, and we see the USS Defiant from TOS show up (albeit in an alternate universe) with information on Archer and crew as historical figures in the TOS era.
7. Star Trek: Discovery (Discovery)
Is this a continuation of TOS? Well, it's also a prequel, except in one respect: it features a direct sequel episode to The Cage (TOS's unsold pilot), itself canonized by its inclusion in The Menagerie. So, Yes, same universe. No doubt. Err, uh, not much doubt.
All the movies feature characters from the series (TOS and TNG, intricately tied together by Relics and Generations). The Kelvin universe films is an alternate timeline caused by a Spock who is from the TOS films era per a photograph in Star Trek Beyond (and therefore, via Relics and Generations, the original TOS).
The Short Treks are all outgrowths of Discovery, or Discovery's interpretation of the Pike-era Enterprise, and are therefore in-continuity with each other. We can argue about Harry Mudd or Calypso, but it's getting a little pedantic at that point.
