Is it just me, or is Star Trek going the wrong way?

[HappyMcWonderful]

Presume "OrangeManBad" is a Trump reference? We have two trailers to go off for the season you are referencing so, unless you have managed to steal the footage prepared so far, care to elaborate?

Based on some comments made over time by people close to Patrick Steward, comments made by him regarding US politics at the height of the lunacy of the last president, and so on so forth. I really really hope this isn't some kind of wish fulfillment thing where Sir Patrick goes back in time to stop 2020 from branching out into a Mirror Universe... one where cartoonishly satired Conservatives go full child-eating evil. It was bad enough when the Hillary Clinton Alien pitted you against the Trump Alien in Star Trek online... I consider that the absolute lowpoint of the game. So there is precedent, there is a prevailing attitude that this sort of thing would be acceptable and given the way things are done for rating I wouldn't put it past them.

I hope, for Trek's sake, that I am and "we" (other folks who have come to the same conclusion) are very much wrong and we can look back on this prediction and go "yeah we were way tf off."

Star Trek: Get Pike'd - love it. Got to be the branding on a Trek themed energy drink or something!

That was our working title for a hypothetical Pike series,

 

[Weyoun 251]

It's actually not but the facts are not relevant to the emotions of the moment. What I have learned in my dalliances in Star Trek fandom is that feel good in the moment/instant gratification style storytelling is much more preferred in Star Trek. Nice, neat, and not at all that challenging. It's like how a lot of Batman stories would go-at the end of it all Batman was still Batman and everyone moved on with their lives.

In that vein, as you note regarding Lower Decks, that show is the closest to "escapist" because it leaves the status as quo as it found it. It is what I tend to call "comfort food viewing" where things are not so different that we can't turn it on and turn the brain off. Ok, that's a very surface level analysis but that's the impression I have been gathering.

That would be my assessment too but I figured that seeing as they only just joined the sight I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and ask the question rather than assume they are a carbon copy 0f what we are used to.

 

[HappyMcWonderful]

*Stewart. Goshdarn typos.

 

[F. King Daniel]

For some people, I guess Trek is just about the pewpew and getting to see up between the nacelle pylons.

 

[cooleddie74]

It's definitely about the shininess and pew-pew for many out there. As long as controls don't look like Jolly Ranchers and the set lighting is dark and moody they're cool.

 

[fireproof78]

For some people, I guess Trek is just about the pewpew and getting to see up between the nacelle pylons.

Sure, why not?

 

[CorporalClegg]

I think it's wonderful that Disco has a black woman lead, a happy and stable gay couple, a trans man, and a nonbinary person. I am always for more representation.

What I don't like about it is how CBS and the higher-ups and even Team Kurtzman sometimes feel the need to pat themselves on the back for it every chance they get. Factor in how every other fucking sentence is "Something something Gene's Vision something something" and there's something nauseatingly self-aggrandizing about it that feels really corporate and calculated, which only detracts from the actual good.

 

[Steve Roby]

What I don't like about it is how CBS and the higher-ups and even Team Kurtzman sometimes feel the need to pat themselves on the back for it every chance they get.

Yeah, that's totally a new thing that never happened before in the history of Star Trek. Incidentally, did you know that Star Trek had the first interracial kiss on American television? Probably not, they never mention it.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah, that's totally a new thing that never happened before in the history of Star Trek. Incidentally, did you know that Star Trek had the first interracial kiss on American television? Probably not, they never mention it.

Well that's news to me!

 

[Awesome Possum]

We have Discovery for the ultra-preacy SJW-In-Space crowd

I take it you've never watched Star Trek before. People against social justice are the bad guys and have been since the beginning. Unless you thought the racism bad episodes were just about aliens, if so I have some bad news for you.

 

[Awesome Possum]

For some people, I guess Trek is just about the pewpew and getting to see up between the nacelle pylons.

My cat likes the flashing lights and quick moving objects, I guess some humans get the same enjoyment.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

As long as controls don't look like Jolly Ranchers

 

[cooleddie74]

Hey, I'm pro-Jolly Rancher control buttons.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Hey, I'm pro-Jolly Rancher control buttons.

 

[cooleddie74]

[Frank Costanza] TOS aesthetics rule, baby! [/Frank Costanza]

 

[CorporalClegg]

Yeah, that's totally a new thing that never happened before in the history of Star Trek. Incidentally, did you know that Star Trek had the first interracial kiss on American television? Probably not, they never mention it.

Do I need to explain to you how this is neither an argument nor a logical rebutted to my post?

 

[Awesome Possum]

I think it's wonderful that Disco has a black woman lead, a happy and stable gay couple, a trans man, and a nonbinary person. I am always for more representation.

What I don't like about it is how CBS and the higher-ups and even Team Kurtzman sometimes feel the need to pat themselves on the back for it every chance they get. Factor in how every other fucking sentence is "Something something Gene's Vision something something" and there's something nauseatingly self-aggrandizing about it that feels really corporate and calculated, which only detracts from the actual good.

Is that exactly what Gene did for the last 20 years of his life?

 

[fireproof78]

Gene did more. He made a cult of personality around Star Trek and it's great influence on TV, congratulating himself on the progressive impact of the franchise. Also cell phones.

 

[CorporalClegg]

And?

 

[fireproof78]

And?

It's worse than whatever Kurtzman is saying.