That these actors got to be a part of a franchise with their first movie while all the others had to go through either a 3 or 7 year run on TV before they hit the silver screen?
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Is it fair?
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is it fair to inflict several years of poor pay and bad hair onto the actors just so they can get a series of movies?
Look at TNG....most of their movies barely earned their money back. I think Nemesis actually failed to earn its money back.
First Contact was the only one that really earned anything.
The TOS movies did better.
Look at TNG....most of their movies barely earned their money back. I think Nemesis actually failed to earn its money back.
First Contact was the only one that really earned anything.
The TOS movies did better.
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Nah, I don't really see it as an issue at all. You have to start somewhere, whether it be a movie screen or a TV screen. Both require hard work, dedication and real talent if you want to be successful.
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Oddly enough, I have to agree. With acting jobs, fair's got less than nothing to do with anything.
Actually, that's true of of life in general.
That's one good point.
For another...
...there is no 3- or 7-year TV run in the offing. CBS-Paramount Television is not interested in making or airing a new Star Trek series at this time. Paramount Pictures -- for all practical purposes a separate entity -- is interested in making and putting on the big screens a movie (and is doing so now) so that's what we're getting.
I'm really not sure what there is to discuss. At this point, the very same question has been asked and answered again and again, and the answer continues to be exactly the same: we're not going to get a series (unless the animated one somehow comes back from its current limbo); we are getting a movie. Debating whether or not that's fair is kind of an empty exercise.
You are aware that just about all of these actors already have at least a few films under their belts? I don't think this is anyone's "first movie".
Or are you trying to say that you think its unfair that their first Star Trek movie is a... um... well... a Star Trek movie?!? 'Cause it would be damn difficult for it to be anything else.
I think what is trying to say is that instead of having a series they get to start in the star trek universe on the silver screen. Where as Picard and friends, and Kirk and friends had to deal with being on TV before getting to the silver screen. I think the problem with the argument is that TV actors seem less willing these days to go from TV to SS, and visa versa for movie actors.
Huh? I don't know a TV actor who won't take a movie gig if he can get it, and the idea of "stepping down" to television, while still there for the biggest movie stars, is much less than it used to be. Most actors are just looking for a good role, no matter where it is.
DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!
Doing TV isn't really a step down anymore. Granted, you know Kiefer Sutherland (24), Harvey Keitel (Life on Mars), Jeff Goldblum (Law & Order: Criminal Intent) and a few others would never have been on TV if their movie careers hadn't faded. Of course you'd rather spend 18 hours a day for three straight months to make one movie for a $10 million paycheck and take the next nine months off, but that's not to say TV can't be satisfying for an actor.
If you're on a great show, you'll have several episodes a year that are as well-written as a top notch movie. And if you're on a juggernaut, you can make seven figures per episode. When Noah Wylie was getting $1 million per episode on ER, that's $22 million over 8-9 months he wouldn't have gotten from movies.
The biggest drawback is the audience members who have tunnel vision and are incapable of seeing the actors as anything other than their TV role.
If you're on a great show, you'll have several episodes a year that are as well-written as a top notch movie. And if you're on a juggernaut, you can make seven figures per episode. When Noah Wylie was getting $1 million per episode on ER, that's $22 million over 8-9 months he wouldn't have gotten from movies.
The biggest drawback is the audience members who have tunnel vision and are incapable of seeing the actors as anything other than their TV role.
Weird and pointless thread in my opinion... M'Sharak's response pretty much sums it up.
So, are you suggesting that Paramount/CBS should first create a TV series starring Pine, Quinto, Urban, et al just to be fair to Shatner, Nimoy, Stewart and the others?
Yes, that is it, exactly. I'm not saying they are bad actors/actresses or anything of that nature, and in fact I don't really care if they started Star Trek in the SS while the others started with a series (and I do realize too that there is no TV offering at this point) it was a question I had. I asked because the original actors had to make their way through a series, then animated series before entering the silver screen. That's all.
We're still talking about this?
Fairness doesn't enter into it. Everything in life is not a matter of right or wrong.
Poor Adam West.... 
I guess one answer to that would be that Star Trek was not originally conceived as a movie project, either; it was an idea for a TV show, from the very beginning and it wasn't ever intended to be anything but a TV show. The idea of a movie didn't come along until quite a few years after the original series' cancellation and the growing popularity of the show in syndication.
Star Trek: TNG -- same deal; it was not conceived as a movie project. The movies came several years later, after its popularity had been demonstrated on TV.
Star Trek XI was conceived as a movie project, and not as a TV show; actors were cast for roles in that movie. That's it, really. In the real world of business and profit, it's not about paying dues in the Trek universe first before you get your movie; this is what they decided to make. The movie will either succeed or it won't, which is the only definition of fair that counts in Hollywood.
That's Hollywood. Sometimes you get the almost-instantaneous breaks. Sometimes you have to slug through commercials, TV shows and other movies before getting a big project like this.
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