is it a good ideal to bring back the draft?
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Bad idea - I don't think, on average, draftees make as good as soldier than the ones who become soldiers by choice.
Do we really need this conversation on the anniversary of 9/11, which really started the fear mongering of bringing back the Draft. Also, aren't the wars kind of calming down? Of course we haven't found Bin Laden yet (What's taking so long, and that's one of the negative things about today in that we honor veterans and make speeches feeling sorry for ourselves instead we should be asking questions like what has been done since). There is no need for a draft really.
Isn't it the day after the anniversary of 9/11?
I just got home after a long day of work. It's only been Saturday for 20 minutes.
I have to catch up somehow.
I just got home after a long day of work. It's only been Saturday for 20 minutes.
I have to catch up somehow.
Oh, you are in California. I was going on the East Coast time where I think it would be after 7am. Here in Australia it is 5.23pm on the 12th so 9/11 has been over for us for more than 17 hours.
It is my son's birthday today so we are celebrating.
I just got home after a long day of work. It's only been Saturday for 20 minutes.
I have to catch up somehow.
Oh, you are in California. I was going on the East Coast time. Here in Australia it is 5.23pm on the 12th so 9/11 has been over for us for more than 17 hours.
Happy Birthday to your son.
I think by the time the first tower fell it was already the 12th in Australia but I am not certain. It was certainly late in the evening here.
Anyway, no i think it's a bad idea to bring back the draft. I feel that we really don't need it right now. The military is doing a bang up job.
He survives and is still free because he was of better use to the prior administration as the boogie-man that was gonna getcha if you didn't do what they said. The current administration has had their hands pretty full cleaning up from the last, and combined with Bin Laden keeping a low profile, the full attention of this administration has yet to be leveled in his direction. I hope that when the higher priority issues have been addressed and rectified we will see a manhunt for Bin Laden as effective as the Cash For Clunkers program was for car dealers.
Slaves make poor soldiers.
Nah, you'ld catch a cold if you do...
Bad idea. In general draftees make poor soldiers compared to volunteers. Its also an unwanted imposition on the people by their government. The government works for us, we don't work for it. Drafting its people to get killed in order to further its own ends is the mark of a tyrannical government.
How exactly did the draft work before? Did they basically (not quite basically) take people and give them a uniform? Or was it a case of whoever was drafted and could pass training was in? I'm a little unsure of the details.
Anyway.... no. There's no need for a draft, especially right now. When I was pre-training for the army this year, which had to come to a halt due to recurring knee and back issues I tried to bitch through, a journalist pointed out to me that with the rising unempoyment the army was the last option for a lot of people.
The sergeants training me agreed with that as they had more people signing up.
Anyway.... no. There's no need for a draft, especially right now. When I was pre-training for the army this year, which had to come to a halt due to recurring knee and back issues I tried to bitch through, a journalist pointed out to me that with the rising unempoyment the army was the last option for a lot of people.
The sergeants training me agreed with that as they had more people signing up.
^^ Draftees had to pass the physical and go through training and so forth. Not everybody made it by far.
There's no need for a draft right now, not even close. We'd have to be involved in a major war for that to be necessary.
There's no need for a draft right now, not even close. We'd have to be involved in a major war for that to be necessary.
Its never necessary. People sign up when they believe in what they're doing, because they think its right and good. If a government doesn't have enough troops to pursue a war, they should take that as a sign that the war is unwanted by the people and act accordingly.
I disagree. A draft is needed in large-scale situations like WWII. People will do their Patriotic duty when asked, though they will not necessarily volunteer. Wars are mostly unwanted in any case, but I don't think most of the people who waited to be drafted in WWII thought the war was unnecessary or that their service was unwarranted.
None the less, they didn't choose to enlist. They were forced to by their government to further its own ends... and I'm sure many of them would've preferred not to serve, though doubless many thought it was right (but perhaps not right for them). I don't believe a democratic government has any business forcing its people to do anything - especially to fight for it.
Absolutely! A general conscription would have the effect of sharing the burden of the USA's military adventures among the entire population, and not just on the poor people. If that Senator's son is getting a draft notice, maybe he won't be as quick to approve starting a senseless war...
Not surprising given the benefits you get in exchange for a few years of service.
Barring infantry work, i.e. combat duty, it's not that dangerous.. at least not more dangerous than similar work in the civilian world however the discipline is far tighter (obviously).
I've had many people tell me that they never regretted it joining the armed forces.. for Germany of course that means no combat duty but i guess that applies for many armed forces around the world.
People there for example get their truck drivers license paid which means they can apply for a truck driver job immediately after exiting the army (and truck drivers are always needed) or they get trained in another field which they can use in the civilian world.
The fact that you get free housing, food and other supplies (may not be totally to your taste but that's life) and nice pay (for the most part) means it is a very attractive option for many people.
The only drawback is active combat duty but them's the breaks.
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