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Is (guess who) a (insert something) Sue? (Spoilers)

Is Yoda a Baby Sue?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Of course not, there's a perfectly established canon precedent

  • Well, isn't this a turn around?


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Rey has a vagina, which is always a threat to "good storytelling"
Back in the Good Days of the OT, the message of the Trilogy itself was one warning everyone of the threats posed by vaginas. The Sarlacc Pit was nobody's friend. But today we're being encouraged to follow the leadership of those with vaginas. Thanks a lot, Secretary Kennedy, you've destroyed the morals embedded in me by the OT.

( ;) )
 
Baby Yoda was pretty tuckered out after his use of the force.

I think there just needs to be some consistency.
 
Back in the Good Days of the OT, the message of the Trilogy itself was one warning everyone of the threats posed by vaginas. The Sarlacc Pit was nobody's friend. But today we're being encouraged to follow the leadership of those with vaginas. Thanks a lot, Secretary Kennedy, you've destroyed the morals embedded in me by the OT.

( ;) )

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We all got a chicken-duck-woman thing waiting for us...
 
let's not ever forget

Baby yoda was unconscious for days. Rey was totally fine after moving 3 tons of CGI rocks after having just blasted TIES, having just escaped a ship, having just fought Kylo using the Force for a lightsaber, having just faught guards, having just been tossed around by Snoke, having just fought Luke Skywalker.
 
let's not ever forget

Baby yoda was unconscious for days. Rey was totally fine after moving 3 tons of CGI rocks after having just blasted TIES, having just escaped a ship, having just fought Kylo using the Force for a lightsaber, having just faught guards, having just been tossed around by Snoke, having just fought Luke Skywalker.

Let's not ever forget

Luke Skywalker blew up the Death Star right after having seen his best friend explode to protect his life right after seeing his mentor struck down right after having to kill for the first time right after seeing the charred remains of his Aunt and Uncle right after getting beat down by some Sandpeople.

I'm not saying Rey's journey is absolutely perfect. Its not. And before you go into the whole "defending a movie by attacking a movie that's been perfectly okay for 40 years," it hasn't. This aspect of A New Hope really bugs me. And it has since I was probably since I was 11. Maybe earlier. Any one of those events on their own would and should have been enough to take either of these characters down for the count. But it doesn't. Because you have to have a hero. I, for one, remind myself:

It's just a movie.
 
In my mind Luke touched the Force in that moment, let it take the shot.. put his faith in it. For that brief moment the Force guided him. Didn't mean he was trained.. or could hone it constructively or fight with it.. it means he just took that leap of faith which is what Ben urged him to do, what Vader was concerned about at the conference room, and was the whole point of the film
 
In my mind Luke touched the Force in that moment, let it take the shot.. put his faith in it. For that brief moment the Force guided him. Didn't mean he was trained.. or could hone it constructively or fight with it.. it means he just took that leap of faith which is what Ben urged him to do, what Vader was concerned about at the conference room, and was the whole point of the film

I get what the film is trying to say. But it doesn't change everything that happened before that. Any event that Luke had gone through it that movie would have been enough to destroy him. We're talking really emotionally traumatic events. Think about if you saw the people who raised you how Luke did when you returned to the homestead. Do you really think after a twenty minute drive that you'd be able to just go ahead and keep going without a moment of doubt? Maybe for a moment, but the time you got to the airport bar, you'd be in the corner in the fetal position, sobbing your eyes out. It is completely unrealistic. Yet we accept it, which is perfectly okay for a movie. Is what I'm saying making sense?
 
In agreement with Campe98: "Repeat to yourself 'it's just a show, I should really just relax.'" The MST3K mantra lives forever. If you're unable to do this, then write a fix-it fic.
 
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