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Is DS9 worth binging?

DonIago is right about one thing: watching Let He Who Is Without Sin is a small price to pay to be in on all the jokes we make about the series. So, @TechnoGoose , you will learn to live with it. Because you can live with it.

You can live with it.
Besides, that at least has a great scene that explains the 'why' of Worf.

Even the 5th worst episode of DS9 has something redeemable.
 
DS9 committed the cardinal crime of being different from what came before on Trek and that ruffled feathers back in the day. Fortunately, over the years people have come to see its sheer quality and brilliance. So many people now consider it the best of all the Trek shows. Unlike TNG, it has aged exceptionally well too. It does take a little while to find its confidence and voice, but it’s a show that gets better and better and BETTER. It boasts the best cast and best overall writing of ALL the modern Treks. It was pioneering and at its best not just great Trek, but great television full stop.
Just out of curiosity, what do you think aged poorly about TNG? I'm only a little halfway season 2, so maybe I haven't seen it to it's full extent yet. The animation and costumes definitely come to mind for me so far
 
I was amazed until she told me she fast-forwarded through most of it to get to ‘good’ bits.

I think it’s a horrifying way to consume entertainment.
For some people it's content rather than entertainment. Just something to look at briefly instead of engaging with.

Although I have skipped through a movie or two after I've realized that they are garbage, so perhaps I shouldn't talk. ;)
 
She’s 33. Hardly a teenager wanting to fit in.

Attention spans seem to be lessening I think.
I work with adults wanting to fit in, including 30 year olds and 50 year olds.

I agree attention spans are starting to lessen, but I doubt that's the only part of it. But, that's my unscientific opinion.
 
The other day my student told me she’d finished watching three seasons of Squid Game in three days.

I was amazed until she told me she fast-forwarded through most of it to get to ‘good’ bits.

I think it’s a horrifying way to consume entertainment.
One of my beefs about modern programming is the amount of padding in the form of repetition.

In "fiction" TV, the "mystery box" is frequently used in this way - and the "mystery" is rarely worth it. In "factual" or "reality" TV, it's telling you what you are going to see, recaps of what you have just seen and all-too-common "reminders of the journey " (ie clips from previous shows). For live sports, it's various forms of "time-out" and advertising.

Recording the programme and skipping these boring and inessential parts reduces many shows quite considerably. (I have in mind an "hour-long" documentary that contained about 18 minutes of actual material and many "quiz" shows are 2/3rds empty chatter, 1/3rd, questions)

In theory, I share your horror. In practice, fast-forwarding reduces the amount of time wasted.
 
For some people it's content rather than entertainment. Just something to look at briefly instead of engaging with.

Although I have skipped through a movie or two after I've realized that they are garbage, so perhaps I shouldn't talk. ;)

She’s 33. Hardly a teenager wanting to fit in.

Attention spans seem to be lessening I think.

I find myself falling victim to it sometimes and I hate myself for it.

One of my beefs about modern programming is the amount of padding in the form of repetition.

In "fiction" TV, the "mystery box" is frequently used in this way - and the "mystery" is rarely worth it. In "factual" or "reality" TV, it's telling you what you are going to see, recaps of what you have just seen and all-too-common "reminders of the journey " (ie clips from previous shows). For live sports, it's various forms of "time-out" and advertising.

Recording the programme and skipping these boring and inessential parts reduces many shows quite considerably. (I have in mind an "hour-long" documentary that contained about 18 minutes of actual material and many "quiz" shows are 2/3rds empty chatter, 1/3rd, questions)

In theory, I share your horror. In practice, fast-forwarding reduces the amount of time wasted.

If I felt my leisure activity in any way constituted a waste of my time, I would select another leisure activity.
By this point, we have all been well habituated to the slop AI will start producing for us.
 
I did binge it, and it's a pretty awful experience. There is way too much filler. If this show aired today, it would be 13 episodes max a season.

You can find binge lists online to get through it without watching a lot of filler. That's what I would recommend the first time through. Then go back and watch filler episodes that interest you.
mmm love the continuing misuse of the term "filler".
and if people are making lists of the "correct" episodes to watch like this, and eschewing all others, then they are also not "bingeing". and this is especially a poor way to watch something for the first time.
 
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Indeed, while DISCO occasionally stretched plot points to the point of excess, I think the show's shorter seasons were one of its weakest points, because it inhibited the writing of "filler episodes" that would have allowed the show to focus more on character growth and development rather than simply using the characters to service the plot. This might have been less of an issue if the show hadn't adopted the seasonal "big bad" format, but having those two factors in play simultaneously, to me, was a misstep.
maybe we would have actually cared about airiam, for example, if we had spent an episode or two with her beforehand...
 
maybe we would have actually cared about airiam, for example, if we had spent an episode or two with her beforehand...
Yeah. At least the episode itself gave us a look into who she was before what happened happened, but the funeral in the next episode, while well executed, also felt like laying it on a bit thick, if only because it was so inconsistent with how we've typically seen character deaths in Trek handled (though frankly this was an example of how in reality it should be; people deserve to be remembered). It would have been better writing to sprinkle character bits throughout the season leading up to this though, rather than giving us the deep dive in her final episode.

Which I suppose is my way of saying I did care to some degree (at least she'd been present since the beginning), but I was also aware of what the show was doing to manipulate our emotions rather than letting them develop more organically.
 
It would have been better writing to sprinkle character bits throughout the season leading up to this though, rather than giving us the deep dive in her final episode.
some interactions with tilly, an argument with stamets, an episode b-plot were she's dealing with a glitch of some kind, something. instead of just kind of being in the background, getting replaced by a different actress just so she can die and then get replaced by her original actress as a different character, who then proceded to also just be kind of there.

there were regular extras on TNG that got more, i swear.
 
some interactions with tilly, an argument with stamets, an episode b-plot were she's dealing with a glitch of some kind, something. instead of just kind of being in the background, getting replaced by a different actress just so she can die and then get replaced by her original actress as a different character, who then proceded to also just be kind of there.

there were regular extras on TNG that got more, i swear.
Like Ensign Rager... in "Night Terrors", she forgot how to use the helm due to sleep deprivation. And in "Schisms", she was one of the crew being experimented on. She even got a first name there, Sariel.


Hell, Morn on DS9 got more development than some of the DISCO characters. And he never spoke a single word.
 
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