How can Refuge possibly be going in circles? She never prominently displayed her pilots license to every man she saw, even if they weren't qualified to ask for it. She never filed a proper circular flight plan with the FAA (Fictional Aviation Adminstration). She never spent a movie guiding us through a training montage of her 40 hours of basic flight time to get said license.
You know, all the things smart viewers just take for granted as non-essential background information when a character tells you they're a pilot and then demonstrate proficiency at exactly that, because we don't want to take away from actual important storytelling time.
But now when it's a woman, it suddenly matters to show all that extraneous detail instead of just using your head like you have for every male character.
It's bad enough when it comes from men, but it's especially shitty when it comes from a woman who has to hypocritically and inconsistently bash a female character little girls (and boys) look up to just as boys and girls looked up to the characters of the past. One has to wonder what made them hate the idea of a female hero so much.
First of all I think it's absolutely adorable that you suddenly care so much about "whataboutism" now when it comes to fictional female character's flight capabilities that you throw out the word like a shield in every other post, but couldn't give a shit about and even practiced actual whataboutism yourself when it was being used to excuse and deflect from real world political policies that were actively hurting real people, including children. So nice priorities, as always.
Secondly, you can't quote long passages of text about Luke from Wookieepedia to try and support your argument and then hypocritically cry "whataboutism!" when anyone else uses him or other relevant examples as a counterpoint as well.
Thirdly, Rey's flying abilities are supported by numerous hints within the body of the film itself and even one explicit reference, which I listed in detail and you summarily dismissed below because it didn't support your argument. So, we're not allowed to provide alternate examples of other characters, we're not supposed to quote out of film evidence from peripheral materials, and we're not even supposed to provide actual clues from within the film itself.
That's a handy little dishonest tactic you've got there, almost like your sole purpose is to try and keep the argument going long enough to provoke a negative response from people. I'm sure there's a word for that, other than whataboutism.
None of the things I mentioned were from any books or peripheral materials. They were all just things any viewer who was paying attention to the film and not watching with an inherent negative bias against competent female protagonists could infer about her situation on Jakku.
But it's sweet that you actually claim to have read the post now, pages later, after making no effort to actually refute any of the points I made in the post.
