Is Chakotay dead ?

[Guy Gardener]

Considering Voyager instituted the insanity that Borg don't reproduce, only assimilate, I'd hope they don't age. Otherwise their attrition would be something fierce, and they'd have to continually expand (or keep unassimilated planets in reserve) just to maintain numbers.

We've known that they assimilate babies since nearly the beginning in TNG.

But how early is to early in fetal development to assimilate a baby?

Is it comparable to the current abortion debate?

They can't assimilate a fetus earlier than we think you shouldn't a abort a human being.

 

[Danja]

We've known that they assimilate babies since nearly the beginning in TNG.

But how early is to early in fetal development to assimilate a baby?

Fetuses, babies, and children are placed in maturation tanks ... and THEN assimilated.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Everytime we've seen a tank, there's a complete Borg(child) in it.

We saw a tank with a baby drone it, and we saw a drawer with a baby drone in it.

They are assimilated inside the tank or on the way to the tank.

I remember seeing a planet getting assimilated. There was one drone holding the hand of a dazed unasimilated person, who was holding the hand of another and another and... A dozen of them were winding through the disaster and chaos like a snake. Its possible that that was only some kind of tranquilation, and not partial assimilation, or tranquilation is the first step of assimilation.

And then there was Mulcahey who became One?

 

[tharpdevenport]

No, he's off on a vision quest.

Permanently.

"He's stone dead."
"Nah, nah, he's resting."
"All right then, if he's resting, I'll wake him up. Hello Chacotay! I got a nice script for you if you wake up!"
"There, he moved!" slaps the corpse.

 

[Prax]

There's no way it's Icheb. I'd say there's a solid 30% chance it's Chakotay. If it's a flashback, it's becomes a "probably Chakotay."


But it's probably not a flashback, and thus, probably someone else.

Icheb has no brand recognition. There's probably no Icheb tribute videos on YouTube or anything like that. He's also a square. Hollywood has little use for squares.

 

[Danja]

To me the room looks Starfeetish so I an thinking the man is Starfleet. What if is Riker and it is flashback to the Titan. Maybe it has something to do with Riker retiring. Maybe Seven was part of the crew.

After spending twenty-four years in space, I can't imagine her wanting to go back into space so soon after leaving Voyager.

We don't even know if that character is really dead in the scene, or if those are tears of sorrow or joy from Seven. It's a very short clip.

Something causes her to go ballistic (pun intended):

I'm betting on sorrow.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Inanimate objects can't die

 

[Agony_Boothb]

There's no way it's Icheb. I'd say there's a solid 30% chance it's Chakotay. If it's a flashback, it's becomes a "probably Chakotay."


But it's probably not a flashback, and thus, probably someone else.

Icheb has no brand recognition. There's probably no Icheb tribute videos on YouTube or anything like that. He's also a square. Hollywood has little use for squares.

There are icheb tribute vids and they all suck

 

[TRON JA307020]

We have all seen the trailer were Seven is upset and holding the body of a man that looks like it could be him. It would be cold to kill a regular just using a body double but we are living in a Admiral Ackbar sucked into space offscreen world so who knows. I think the answer is yes but we will see Beltran with a cameo. Jason

no it’s not him.

 

[Danja]

I'm leaning closer to Icheb than Chuckles.

Chuckles was a one night stand. Icheb, OTOH, was as close as a son to Seven (God help the person who kills Icheb).

Icheb was a Starfleet cadet while he was still on Voyager. By this time, he'd be full-fledged SF (hence, the uniform in the clip).

 

[Prax]

"Chuckles"......was her muthertruckin husband.

 

[Blooded]

In regards to anyone saying all the trailer scenes are from the first episode, Jeri Ryan confirmed months ago that her first episode was directed by Frakes. He was on episodes 3-4, if I recall, so she doesn’t show up for a few episodes.

Whilst the shots of the body do look like the VOY uniform, there seems to be no logical reason why someone would even be wearing that, past Endgame? Starfleet were in new uniforms by then, so if it IS Chakotay (which would be a great link to VOY), he’d presumably have to be kidnapped moments after Endgame to justify him being in the old uniform still?

I’ve overthinking this, haha.

 

[Danja]

"Chuckles"......was her muthertruckin husband.

In one alternate timeline, yes.

In universe, OTOH, they were never close. He was never more than an "experiment".

 

[Prax]

In one alternate timeline, yes.

In universe, OTOH, they were never close. He was never more than an "experiment".

True love is not restricted to single "timelines."

 

[Danja]

True love is not restricted to single "timelines."

On Voyager, it is.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

There's no way it's Icheb. I'd say there's a solid 30% chance it's Chakotay. If it's a flashback, it's becomes a "probably Chakotay."


But it's probably not a flashback, and thus, probably someone else.

Icheb has no brand recognition. There's probably no Icheb tribute videos on YouTube or anything like that. He's also a square. Hollywood has little use for squares.

Paul Lynde would disagree