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Is anybody out there?

WHERE DID IT GO?! WHAT HAPPENED TO IT?!
Discuss.
The script where the Borg kids leave the ship did mention the baby as being beamed down, too, but it had been so long since the baby was even mentioned onscreen that they dropped the scene as being an unnecessary complication for casual viewers.

I'm neither intending, nor attempting to come off as 'elitist', my friends, although I DO seem to get that reaction quite a lot. I am merely hoping to cut through some of the crap I've encountered on MANY other Trek boards.

Well, go back and re-read your initial post, imagining yourself as a longtime regular. As I suggested before, sending PMs to posters, who seem to be kindred spirits, over your first few weeks of scanning the threads you like, is a good way to build a network of like-minded BBS buddies.
 
In fact, it has been my experience that those who might label one as an elitist are usually feeling threatened by a person whose intelligence, eloquence, perceptiveness, or skill they deem to be greater than their own.

No.

Your experience is more limited than you imagine.
 
There is no-one out here, truespock. But keep searching, True Seeker, and maybe someday you will find what you are looking for. Godspeed! Godspeed!

Kindly refrain from referring to me as "no one."

You could never be no one with an avatar like that. I wish we could get posters of the German book cover art.

OP what I found initially offputting about your post was that you ask if anyone on this board is posting intellectual posts as opposed to just who is hot posts.. but a cursory glance at the forums here should show you that this bbs is broad and every possible discussion happens here. I'm sure you will find plenty of good threads on this board.
 
Well, let's see now: Personal barbs, bickering, sexual innuendo, irrelevant comments--yep, it's all here, folks! How VERY disappointing. I guess Star Trek really IS just a T.V. show, after all.

As far as sending PM's to people I might wish to talk to, perhaps you are unfamiliar with the forum rules, which clearly state that I must be here two weeks and submit 50 posts before I can send PM's.

Happily, I've also gotten some very thoughtful and positive replies from some of you. THAT'S what I'm looking for! I'll be in touch.
 
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Well, let's see now: Personal barbs, bickering, sexual innuendo, irrelevant comments--yep, it's all here, folks! How VERY disappointing. I guess Star Trek really IS just a T.V. show, after all.
Sure those things are here just as they are everywhere online and in the real world. And that's where some of that thick skin comes in handy. You have to be able to overlook a lot of that because when you look around you will find the meaningful discussions.
 
In fact, it has been my experience that those who might label one as an elitist are usually feeling threatened by a person whose intelligence, eloquence, perceptiveness, or skill they deem to be greater than their own.

No.

Your experience is more limited than you imagine.


Hi Dennis -

Please don't misunderstand - I'm not trying to be sarcastic or cheeky but I really would be interested in elaboration. I always enjoy a good discussion of human nature anyway so, if you're game, I'd love to broaden my horizons by reading and seriously considering whatever you might have to say on the topic. And if it can be done using Star Trek or Trek bulletin boards as a frame of reference, so much the better.

LLAP
 
I am searching. Actually, I spend way too much time on my quest--several hours each day on the various Trek sites; every spare moment usually--but I'm guessing the end is nearing. You see, I am methodically traipsing across the planet, via the dubious 'miracle' of the internet, looking for another being, or beings, with an education and background similar to mine, who sees more significance in the magnificent richness and texture of the epic 45 year Star Trek Saga than merely, "Which captain do you think has the nicest ass?", or, "What Trek 'hottie' has the best rack?", or, "Kirk and Spock are gay lovers--It's canon...live with it!"

If you haven't already stopped reading this, preferring instead to peruse the latest postings of scantily clad 'convention babes' on 'you-know-what space', then you're way ahead of the pack. But be forewarned! If you ever dare to pose the simple question, "Isn't there any more to it for you than this?", to the unwashed masses, they will immediately descend upon you like demented and ravenous rabid wolves, attacking everything from your credentials to your very masculinity, and all the while screeching maniacally, "You're 'dissing' US, and need to be taken down a peg or two!" Ah, mob rule...what an ingenious way to run a society!

Anybody still with me? There are any number of really well thought out topics on this site, to several of which, I have given my heartfelt response. I'm still waiting to hear back from some first class Trek minds...is anybody out there?

Retired clinical psychologist and university professor, happily married, untimate Spock fan

Please, kindly disregard any "official credentials" which might be inferred from my humble scribblings...believe me, I do! Ultimately, I just wanna talk about my favorite thing in the world--Star Trek. And, yes; those big bosomed, leggy girls in their TOS micro mini's do STILL rock the universe.

I'm neither intending, nor attempting to come off as 'elitist', my friends, although I DO seem to get that reaction quite a lot. I am merely hoping to cut through some of the crap I've encountered on MANY other Trek boards. Unfortunately, my bitterness over past experiences seems to be showing...not very Vulcan of me, I grant you. As to the reference to 'soapbox posts', is THAT what I'm coming across like? Not a very hopeful sign, is it?

P.S.: 7 of 9 has 'the best rack' in Star Trek, duh!

Well, let's see now: Personal barbs, bickering, sexual innuendo, irrelevant comments--yep, it's all here, folks! How VERY disappointing. I guess Star Trek really IS just a T.V. show, after all.

As far as sending PM's to people I might wish to talk to, perhaps you are unfamiliar with the forum rules, which clearly state that I must be here two weeks and submit 50 posts before I can send PM's.

Happily, I've also gotten some very thoughtful and positive replies from some of you. THAT'S what I'm looking for! I'll be in touch.

The tone of your original post was not merely elitist but quite frankly incredibly snobby. Furthermore it was needlessly provocative. Attempting to deflect criticism by then claiming that your intentions were different from the results of your actions is a form of illogic that is most often seen in bullies. The kind who make insulting comments and then when called on it proclaim how they were "only kidding".

If this has been your posting style in other venues then I have no doubt that you have been met with a great deal of hostility.

Or to put it more succinctly I shall quote my grandfather. "If you don't want the hornets to swarm, don't throw rocks at their damn nest."

Peace
And
Long
Life
 
Of course, as a general rule of thumb, it's not wise to start out by stirring up trouble in Internet BBS posts. That's certainly frowned upon by users who've been there a long time and by the mods. So, as a "new guy" myself, I'll throw this opinion out there once and then leave it alone.

I didn't find his initial post to be snobby or elitist at all. Is it a tad wordy? Sure - but I can appreciate that as I sometimes tend to overdo it when I write too. But what I got out of it is basically - "I'm a die hard Trek fan who appreciates the deeper meaning in Trek and I wanna' talk about it with like minded folks without being ridiculed like I've been on other boards". Is that really elitist? Is it snobby?

When I dared to suggest (either upthread here or in another thread - I can't recall) that, in my experience, name-calling/labeling is generally a tactic used when we feel threatened, another user immediately "put me in my place" by citing how limited my experience must be (how he can possibly know about my experiences one way or the other is beyond me).

Sadly, with two or three exceptions, it would seem everything this guy was hoping to avoid here ended up happening to him anyway. Could he have forestalled that by writing his posts differently? Perhaps. Should he have had to? I happen to think not.
 
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If the OP wishes to discuss a certain subject there's nothing stopping the OP from starting a new thread. Expecting any discussion to go entirely his way, however, is not a sign of openness and maturity. Sure, some nasty sniping happens on this board, but a lot of deep, respectful, and fun discussions take place as well. Rather than rushing in with what appear to me to be elitist and, frankly, self-obsorbed expectations the OP should sit back, have some fun reading through the archives (which are filled with brilliant debates and discussions) and lurk, thereby getting to know the ethos of the board better before making what may be considered rash and unfair judgements.

If the group/board/sandbox doesn't suit you, move on quietly and find one that does.
 
The circular bridge with four sets of steps and a cross shaped center section is a representation of the the squared circle archetype identified by Jung. Kirk, the hero, sits in the center, uniting animus (reason, Spock) with anima (compassion, McCoy) into wholeness, Jung's therapeutic goal of "individuation."

How's that? I only have a master's degree, though.
 
And the flashing lights are very pretty.

(Bachelor degree and double post!)
 
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The circular bridge with four sets of steps and a cross shaped center section is a representation of the the squared circle archetype identified by Jung. Kirk, the hero, sits in the center, uniting animus (reason, Spock) with anima (compassion, McCoy) into wholeness, Jung's therapeutic goal of "individuation."

How's that? I only have a master's degree, though.

"Cross-shaped" should be hyphenated. Will tear off a corner of my master's degree for that.

Hey, OP, if you want some good, substantive discussions, try searching for threads about the transporter and Tuvix.
 
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