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I think it's a slight case of narcissism with a bit of easier access -- the standard teenage problem of getting someone to like you versus actually making that happen. If no one else likes you but you think you're attractive anyway, then there's going to be some inner tension, and it'd be much easier to get with someone like you. But yeah, it's not uncommon, I think.
Re. the question of Amy's sexuality, I'll just adapt a Jack Bauer Fact thusly:
"Your attraction to Amy Pond has nothing to do with your normal sexual orientation."
I think it's a slight case of narcissism with a bit of easier access -- the standard teenage problem of getting someone to like you versus actually making that happen. If no one else likes you but you think you're attractive anyway, then there's going to be some inner tension, and it'd be much easier to get with someone like you. But yeah, it's not uncommon, I think.
This is there the discussion needs to be centered. The discussion has been veering off into tangents that are out of place for the forum. The subject is an understandable question given the content of the short films, but it's gotten at times too combative and too graphic in others. Please keep away from those tendencies or the thread will have to be closed.
It isn't so important, but a character's sexual orientation should certainly be something to be aware of as it may help better define them in future stories.
I'm just speaking in general here. I haven't even seen the thing with Amy that we're talking about here. It just seems like you're getting awfully touchy about this, captain crow, for no good reason.
I think it's a slight case of narcissism with a bit of easier access -- the standard teenage problem of getting someone to like you versus actually making that happen. If no one else likes you but you think you're attractive anyway, then there's going to be some inner tension, and it'd be much easier to get with someone like you. But yeah, it's not uncommon, I think.
This is there the discussion needs to be centered. The discussion has been veering off into tangents that are out of place for the forum. The subject is an understandable question given the content of the short films, but it's gotten at times too combative and too graphic in others. Please keep away from those tendencies or the thread will have to be closed.
How many times have you been told to knock off the threadshitting? Clearly all your infractions in the past didn't teach you shit, so you get another infraction for trolling and another week-long vacation. Remember, two more means a month.
Bullshit! It adds as much to her character as any other characteristic. How the hell could it not? Knowing her sexual orientation is no more or less important than any other facet of her character.
Why is it so unimportant to you? Or rather, why is not knowing about her sexuality so damned important to you?
The topic was started off by a male asking whether she's bi or not. In most cases (not all but most) on a tv show form when a male asks this type of question about a female character's sexuality it's usually for masturbatory purposes.
I didn't even see it, but I find it sadly humorous that a comedy sketch for a charitable cause provokes such strong emotions here that a thread on it is teetering on being closed.
I don't think the thread is on the verge on being closed. Just some people are wondering why this particular aspect is necessary to talk about but are seemingly hostile in their question asking. I dunno. For the most part the thread's been cordial.
I never said nor implied that that is the only way. But a person's sexual orientation is a fundamental aspect of their character and their personality, and knowing a character's sexual orientation does increase our understanding of the character in a real and substantive way.
Depends on what you mean by "matter." Obviously, a person's sexual orientation shouldn't matter in terms of determining what sorts of legal and moral rights they have. On the other hand, I don't know a single LGBT person who argues that his or her status as an LGBT individual "doesn't matter" -- it matters very much, which is why so many of them find the idea of having to hide their sexual orientation to be deeply troubling and emotionally unhealthy.
Why does it matter whether she is or not? It doesn't add anything to the character. Why is who she has sex with so important?
For the same reason her politics are important -- for the same reason the sexual orientation of any character is important:
It tells us about the character's fundamental nature.
And, yes, I'd be just as curious about Amy's politics as about her sexual orientation. Does she vote Tory? Does she vote Labour? Lib Dem? Maybe she's SNP? Knowing these sorts of details creates a more vivid and realistic character.
I think it's a slight case of narcissism with a bit of easier access -- the standard teenage problem of getting someone to like you versus actually making that happen. If no one else likes you but you think you're attractive anyway, then there's going to be some inner tension, and it'd be much easier to get with someone like you. But yeah, it's not uncommon, I think.
This is there the discussion needs to be centered. The discussion has been veering off into tangents that are out of place for the forum. The subject is an understandable question given the content of the short films, but it's gotten at times too combative and too graphic in others. Please keep away from those tendencies or the thread will have to be closed.
I would guess it's a matter of narcissism as much as anything - Amy Pond clearly thinks very highly of herself (which is good!), and hey, how often do you get to flirt with yourself?
More evidence is required before saying if she's bi or not IMO. We do know she definitely likes men - Rory, Jeff, van Gogh, "The Invasion of the Hot Italians," but who knows about women? Not that I expect it to come up much beyond flirting since she's married now. If it comes up, cool. If it doesn't, whatever.
Hmm... would she be cheating on Rory if she slept with herself?
There was a thread recently, down in the depths of Misc, something about if some girl saw her self in the mirror, she might find her reflection a turn on and want to get off with it.
I've seen the "Is Amy bi?" question several times since it was revealed that Amy flirts with herself in one of the minisodes. After which pervy comments usually follow. The way Dimesdan's original post was worded (which he admits was done in a matter to invoke responses) I figured this was most likely another one of those types of threads. So already being in a somewhat irritated mood I posted a jokey sarcastic comment. Sci not understanding the nature of my comment was a jokey one had a knee jerk reaction to it and tried to clam that, in the case of the minisodes, the question is valid. Which of course it's not. It was not some earth shattering revelation about Amy being bisexual. It was a lame Carry On style joke to titillate and get a rise out of viewers. Sci then throws a wobbly, appoints himself as some sort of warrior for LGBT equality and starts an argument about something I have no problem with. Asexuality, bisexuality, heteosexuality, and homosexuality are all natural sexual orientations that not only occur in the human species but also occurs in every other species on the planet. Those who can't grasp that concept are stupid and/or ignorant. My problem is that it was used as a cheap gimmick in these minisodes to make some fan's "wibbly lever" not so wibbly and the sad stereotypical perv fans who pop up in these situations. Hence my original post.
Which is what I'm saying! Sexual orientation shouldn't matter.
I'm sick of this stupid argument. Sci, If you want to continue your rant about LGBT equality then go find someone who actually has a problem with it. You made a mountain out of a molehill by turning a jokey comment poking fun at pervy fans into a needless argument over LGBT equality. I can't stand self-appointed full of themself warriors of justice and equality such as yourself. You throw a wobbly at the most innocent of comments claiming injustice and inequality where there is none.
If the only way you can fully understand a character is by knowing who they boff
